Diet, exercise, lifestyle to decrease the risk of BC recurrence

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  • TonyaM
    TonyaM Member Posts: 2,836
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    Karen_C, you are an inspiration! You make me want to get off my butt right now!
  • Afraser
    Afraser Member Posts: 4,373
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    I think it may not matter so much what you do as long as you do it regularly. I'm a night owl and walking at 6am is about as likely to happen as flying to the moon. But I can walk and cycle at the gym any time and lift weights. I can do yoga. I can commit to a gym membership so I don't backslide. I can walk as much as possible during the day. I can stop 80 hour weeks (in my late 60s) and go to 4 days a week without wrecking myself financially. I can stop talking about joining a choir or taking philosophy classes and do it. Mens sana is as important to me as corpore sano! I didn't do this so much to avoid cancer (be wonderful if it did) but to make the most of my life. We none of us know how long our lives may be and cancer is a powerful reminder that it may not last for ever.
  • Romla
    Romla Member Posts: 2,092
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    Exactly @Afraser The key I think is to keep moving and  to enjoy life however each of us choose.
  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 81
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    We just got back from the beach - school holidays up here - thank you!!!!

    Karen-C - I am speechless and humbled. You show us how it's done - thank you so much for taking the time to post.
    Thank you for so eloquently pointing out that if exercise matters women should have support - both financial and in terms of classses in achieving their goals. We have no trouble (well almost no trouble...the meandering a of PBS approvals and PBAC committees are for another time) writing out thousands of dollars in cancer drugs but only a few women are actively taught ( with more than a multi page pamphlet) as part of their recovery plan what to do about exercise in a broad all inclusive programme.
    When supported women do better and are more likely to stick with it. 

    As for me, I am 50 and of average weight. I know my BMI, recently I took the active step of calculating not only my BMI and but my fat something ( it came as a percentage ... and it involved waist, hip, arm measurements). I also looked up what my heart rate should be for moderate intensity exercise and my jaw dropped. Yes there is a formula for that as well. I have joined a gym twice in the last twenty years and I went twice. I walk - at night, on a threadmill and watch Prowalks on YouTube ( Paris, Pompei etc ) a girl can dream. I can run a little. I swim. I play table tennis. I would like to do more yoga - or some yoga to be honest.
    Afrazer please jump in one this, but apparently it is as good as resistance training for maintaining bone density. That is my short term goal - two yoga sessions a week. I keep a pair of weights in the kitchen (
  • Afraser
    Afraser Member Posts: 4,373
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    Weights in the kitchen - like that! My partner has an annoying habit of interfering with my cooking (he is a very good cook and cooks frequently) by adjusting heat, putting lids on/off, that sort of stuff. Maybe I need a bit more muscle evidence in the kitchen! Not to put him off, just put him in his box. Nicely. 
  • primek
    primek Member Posts: 5,392
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    @wildfire Did you check out the facebook link with modified recipe ideas? This lady is a wonderful cook.
  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 81
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    Primek - Yes, thank you Anne is great - if only my lunch boxes would look like that!!
    What is it about having ALL the colours of the rainbow on your plate that immediately assures you have balance?? 
    Ohhh yes and her banana chocolate chip muffins are on special request...☺️ Maybe on Thursday.
  • Deanne
    Deanne Member Posts: 2,163
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    Fitting exercise into your life will be different for everyone but here is my basic routine now (over 4 years from end of treatment).

    1. An hour’s walk up and down a hilly bushtrack near my home 3-4 times a week in the early morning before breakfast.
    2. 2 x 45 min sessions with weights also including core strength and balance exercises each week.
    3. Walking briskly for 30 minutes on the days I don’t bushwalk.

    But I did not start this straight after treatment ended. I built myself up to this slowly.

    Again, do what YOU enjoy. 

    I also find wearing a Fitbit helpful for knowing how active I am generally each day. No good going for that walk and then sitting for the rest of the day :) Also helpful for knowing the intensity I am exercising at. As I got fitter, I needed to adjust my intensity/walking speed/incline etc. 
  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 81
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    Following an email from Giovanna I will ask for this thread to be closed if BCNA agrees.

    I have placed this thread ON Health and well being and NOT ON Treamenst and side effects nor on the Metastatic Forum.
    To those who have selflessly posted thank you!!

    You are right GIovanna I should have not tried to get over the hump of what went on during the week/end by making a quick whip - rude and delusory as it has been described - at not repeating things and adding positive YOUR LIFE comments rather then forming a "high five virtual group" - that was wrong of me.
    To the 1500 visitors that came to this site to find support for health and wellbeing, I apologise I could not do better for you.

    I should have said this:

    It is wrong to respond to Kmakm message ( Page 1) on her journey that ends with " there is a lot of stress in my life and it helps" with Patty J " wow it would be good if we could believe everything we read ....There is nothing you can do to prevent recurrence. I am so angry! I am shaking!"

    It is wrong and irresponsible to state on a public forum 
    " There is nothing you can do to prevent BC recurrence" unless you prefix it with " for me I feel " 
    or end it with " in everyone".
    It is particularly poor to then highlighted, repeated and support it.

    It is immature to laugh at data that gives moderate intensity exercise ( which is tough to achieve!) a 30% reduction out of the 20-30 recurrence pool - those numbers are frighteningly close to the benefit we get from AIs.
    It is immature and delusory to consider your contribution more significant because you are of age or have more badges.

    It is not ok to use an elite marathon athletes horrendous cancer battle after being diagnosed LATE during pregnancy because of confusion over what she felt in her breast as an example of being healthy, you can still get cancer.

    It is not ok to banish someone for posting on green tea - the data from Japan supports that.

    But mostly I put this on the Moderators.
    It is NOT OK for the women who want to exchange freely on exercise, diet and stress reduction to be made feel bad by those who do not believe it is of benefit to them.
    The victim argument goes both ways. 
    In BCNA there should be a place for those who want to talk freely about this topic without being admonished. 

    ( Romla
  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 81
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    Afrazer
  • Wildplaces
    Wildplaces Member Posts: 81
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    It did not post - that is ok.
  • kezmusc
    kezmusc Member Posts: 1,544
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    Wow @AllyJay,

    I just sat down to write almost the same thing (you've probably done it better though) then read your post.  I have nothing to ad.  Well said.

  • melclarity
    melclarity Member Posts: 3,502
    edited April 2018
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    Hmmm interesting, gee am stunned by that rant actually...I agree @Afraser but seems from that rant quite the opposite. 
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