This disease actually mucks more with your brain than your actual body, I reckon - and our brain can chuck a wobbly at any time. :( Continue listening to Charlotte Tottman's podcasts (from the beginning) as I reckon you'll identify with a lot of the 'issues' that she had to deal with as well .... specially coming from a counselling point of view prior to being diagnosed - which I believe has CHANGED, since her diagnosis.
Jump onto this thread & see some other areas in the forum that you may like to check out? You can show us your furkids, or grandkids .... your pets, garden, art & craft & even some 'funny stuff' .... and there are even some 'tick sheets' down the bottom, that you can print off - to self assess how you are going? xx https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/discussion/23477/a-big-welcome-to-all-our-new-members#latest
Try & keep yourself busy doing stuff you LOVE doing - and try some physical exercise as well, to tire yourself out, so hopefully you will sleep better ..... I think many of us suffer from insomnia - I am one. grrr
take care & all the best ","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:managing-stress-and-anxiety"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:160282"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"arpie"},"postTime":"2023-11-09T21:46:57.000-08:00","kudosSumWeight":3}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXwz","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":160285,"body":"Hi @Roberts It’s true this disease mucks with your brain. I liken it to the grief you feel from the death of a loved one - the death is of your formerly bulletproof self. There are many ideas to solve the insomnia - one is to exercise every day and you are then so tired you sleep . Other suggestions are acupuncture, reflexology , massage . Try to avoid sleeping pills.","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:managing-stress-and-anxiety"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:160282"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"Julez1958"},"postTime":"2023-11-10T00:07:17.000-08:00","kudosSumWeight":1}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXw0","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":160286,"body":"I have just finished a sleep therapy trial. For me personally, I found the following helps me get to sleep and sleep better. No screen time or bright lights after 8pm. Wake up the same time (or close to) each day. Be in a well lit room or outside for at least twenty minutes at the start of your day. No daytime napping, even if you want to.
I have sometimes cheated on the first two but found I didn't sleep well that night when I did.
Re. anxiety. The only way I have found helps is to keep busy. Sometimes it still sneaks up on me when I least expect it but I quickly move myself on. So hard. Sending big 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I think the wheels 'fall off' now & then with most of us - and it can bring on a mini depression .... (even a major one.) It is also 'normal' to have anxiety & insomnia - and going back to work may have triggered some reactions that has caught you off guard xx
This disease actually mucks more with your brain than your actual body, I reckon - and our brain can chuck a wobbly at any time. :( Continue listening to Charlotte Tottman's podcasts (from the beginning) as I reckon you'll identify with a lot of the 'issues' that she had to deal with as well .... specially coming from a counselling point of view prior to being diagnosed - which I believe has CHANGED, since her diagnosis.
Jump onto this thread & see some other areas in the forum that you may like to check out? You can show us your furkids, or grandkids .... your pets, garden, art & craft & even some 'funny stuff' .... and there are even some 'tick sheets' down the bottom, that you can print off - to self assess how you are going? xx https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/discussion/23477/a-big-welcome-to-all-our-new-members#latest
Try & keep yourself busy doing stuff you LOVE doing - and try some physical exercise as well, to tire yourself out, so hopefully you will sleep better ..... I think many of us suffer from insomnia - I am one. grrr
take care & all the best ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"217","kudosSumWeight":3,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-11-09T21:46:57.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-11-09T21:46:57.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:lifestyle-and-wellbeing/community:nkyiu94732board:managing-stress-and-anxiety/message:160282/message:160284","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1665","rawBody":"Sorry you are doing it tough just now @Roberts ... I think the wheels 'fall off' now & then with most of us - and it can bring on a mini depression .... (even a major one.) It is also 'normal' to have anxiety & insomnia - and going back to work may have triggered some reactions that has caught you off guard xx
This disease actually mucks more with your brain than your actual body, I reckon - and our brain can chuck a wobbly at any time. :( Continue listening to Charlotte Tottman's podcasts (from the beginning) as I reckon you'll identify with a lot of the 'issues' that she had to deal with as well .... specially coming from a counselling point of view prior to being diagnosed - which I believe has CHANGED, since her diagnosis.
Jump onto this thread & see some other areas in the forum that you may like to check out? You can show us your furkids, or grandkids .... your pets, garden, art & craft & even some 'funny stuff' .... and there are even some 'tick sheets' down the bottom, that you can print off - to self assess how you are going? xx https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/discussion/23477/a-big-welcome-to-all-our-new-members#latest
Try & keep yourself busy doing stuff you LOVE doing - and try some physical exercise as well, to tire yourself out, so hopefully you will sleep better ..... I think many of us suffer from insomnia - I am one. grrr
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I liken it to the grief you feel from the death of a loved one - the death is of your formerly bulletproof self. There are many ideas to solve the insomnia - one is to exercise every day and you are then so tired you sleep . Other suggestions are acupuncture, reflexology , massage . 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For me personally, I found the following helps me get to sleep and sleep better. No screen time or bright lights after 8pm. Wake up the same time (or close to) each day. Be in a well lit room or outside for at least twenty minutes at the start of your day. No daytime napping, even if you want to.
I have sometimes cheated on the first two but found I didn't sleep well that night when I did.
Re. anxiety. The only way I have found helps is to keep busy. Sometimes it still sneaks up on me when I least expect it but I quickly move myself on. So hard. Sending big hugs","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-11-12T18:27:35.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-11-12T18:27:35.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:lifestyle-and-wellbeing/community:nkyiu94732board:managing-stress-and-anxiety/message:160282/message:160286","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"657","rawBody":"I have just finished a sleep therapy trial. For me personally, I found the following helps me get to sleep and sleep better. No screen time or bright lights after 8pm. Wake up the same time (or close to) each day. Be in a well lit room or outside for at least twenty minutes at the start of your day. No daytime napping, even if you want to.
I have sometimes cheated on the first two but found I didn't sleep well that night when I did.
Re. anxiety. The only way I have found helps is to keep busy. Sometimes it still sneaks up on me when I least expect it but I quickly move myself on. So hard. 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