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Pink66
10 years agoMember
Do We Need a Special Day for Secondary Breast Cancer Awareness? Thoughts from a turtle in a cape
Why do we need a special day for secondary breast cancer?
Don't we have a whole month of 'pink'?
Isn't that enough?
Thoughts from a turtle in a cape..........
You can see by my profile pic that I am a turtle. I live life and do not just exist through it.As a good little turtle - I may be slow but I never ever stop. It was not always this way.
I had a 'crazy but normal' life, wife, mother, worker, friend and the list goes on. In 2004, the last thing you could have convinced me of was that on 11 November 2004 I would be diagnosed with early breast cancer. At 38 there are no regular mammograms available but thankfully I had always done my monthly breast check. It just was one of those things. No family history and no real reason, it just was.
As many people dealing with breast cancer, I went to war. I dealt with my diagnosis head on and I was fighting to win. Battling the enemy I would use any treatments that were necessary to win. My diagnosis numbers and letters seemed good and eight years down the track I thought I was safe - I thought I was past it but it was not to be. Not for me.
On the 7th of November 2012 out of the blue and totally unexpectedly, I was told - "We can treat you but we cannot cure you. Your cancer has returned to other parts of your body". I now live a life with a 'new normal'.
- 1 in 8 will get breast cancer by the time they reach 85
- of those diagnosed where breast cancer is contained within the breast 1 in 20 will at some stage develop secondary breast cancer.
- where the breast cancer is outside the breast ie lymph nodes, 1 in 6 will at some stage will develop secondary breast cancer
- 12-15% of diagnosed patients begin with a secondary diagnosis
- approximately 20% of all breast cancer diagnosis will progress to secondaries
- there are approximately 9,000 people living with secondary breast cancer in Australia at the moment (estimates as statistics are NOT kept)
- A secondary diagnosis does not mean that you have been diagnosed twice. It means that the cancer has moved from the breast to distant parts of the body - most commonly lungs, liver, bones and brain. For this stage of breast cancer there is no cure.
- Secondary breast cancer is also known as Advanced, Stage IV and Metastatic
Every single day, as more and more people (women and men) are handed an early breast cancer diagnosis, I see and hear the fear with the thoughts of 'what if". The thing is, even with a stage 3 cancer with multiple node involvement does not automatically result in a progression to stage 4.
There are statistics and estimations but they are just that. There are many factors that will be stacked up against each and every individual case and we can only do what we can do to be happy and healthy. I call my squatters arriving at my door "dumb luck". No-one can tell me why I am sitting here with Secondary Breast Cancer after so long, just that I am.
It is always better to work with the best odds you can. The fact is that around 20% of all breast cancer diagnosis will progress and be secondary breast cancer. Wonderfully, that leaves around 80% that will not.
Early diagnosis actually means not secondary - not spread to distant parts of the body. I am always being asked about having early breast cancer in 2004 and why, if it was 'early', do I now have secondaries in my liver and bones. I personally wish they would call it primary diagnosis as it just sits better with me and it is easier when I explain it to people.
Secondary breast cancer is a never ending scan - treat - repeat. It is very unusual to be on zero treatments once you have been handed your diagnosis. Even if your condition reaches a time of 'stable' or 'no evidence of disease' (NED) there are always drugs needed to keep it that way.
When you have secondary breast cancer and there is NED it just means that at that time the cancer cannot be seen. The medical teams will never ever tell you that it is gone. Why, because it almost always shows up and progresses again.
There are many treatments and there are many combinations of the cancer which means no two people are alike. This is what makes it all so very tricky.
Basically the issue is that our cancer is smart. It may be 'injured' and even to the point of 'no evidence of disease' at times. However, it always seems to work out a way to get around whatever we throw at it. The best way I can describe it is like this:
- I am standing in a field, and the (squatters) cancers are attacking me.
- The medical team build a wall around me to protect me.
- It works for a while but then my squatters work out how to get around it.
- So the medical team change tactics and build a new wall. This may or may not work but if it does it is only a matter of time before the squatters work out how to get over the wall.
- All the time my body is dealing with toxic walls and is weakened by them even though they are helping.
- This process will generally continue until my body cannot deal with the cancer and/or the treatments any longer.
- How long this can take is up to so many factors. Each of us aim for years not months - I think that goes without saying.
There are times of feeling pretty good and times of not so good. It is just how it is. The cycle can be for a day or for weeks or months - It all depends. It is all about living with and not waiting to die from breast cancer.
People living with secondary breast cancer are more than just the diagnosis.
I may be living with my 'new normal' but I have not stopped being a wife, mother, worker or friend. I still laugh, love, cry and dream. None of that has changed. I have changed and every single person out there living with secondary breast cancer, in their own unique way.
In 2004 I was a warrior fighting the war. I would not change that, not even the wording, as it was me at that time and it was suitable. In 2015 I know better. The battle and war is still raging around me but it is not a fight I will lose. You cannot lose to breast cancer. It is just that your body becomes too weary to continue and it becomes time to rest. That is.. no lost fight.. not ever.
So as we come up to another secondary breast cancer awareness day I would like to bring these things to your attention:
- Secondary breast cancer is the ONLY breast cancer that can kill. All other stages are deemed 'curable'
- Looking fabulous on the outside is a bonus but our insides are not playing the same game
- Treatments are harsh and toxic and there needs to be MORE done to ease the side effects of the treatments that are trying to keep us alive
- Current treatments are a statistically calculated effort to slow down the cancer but they CANNOT stop it (for long)
- Scan - treat - repeat is a way of life when living with secondary breast cancer
- Research is the ONLY way that we will find more answers than questions
- Education and awareness is still paramount. Even though many people will deal with breast cancer and never see it again, it is knowing that too many people will still progress to a secondary diagnosis. Without understanding and knowing our own bodies really well, more and more women (and men) will present far too late and begin their breast cancer diagnosis with a secondary diagnosis
- Saving the tatas, showing your pink undies, talking about being wrapped in a banana skin on facebook are silly, light-hearted games. They do not and never will solve the puzzle that is secondary breast cancer. Only quality research can do that.
Stop Awareness and Find a Cure?
No, just make sure the awareness is actually education and research is funded.
It is all we can ask.....
#SBCAD #showyoursupport
24 Replies
- iserbrownMemberSharon thank you for sharing. Wishing you stabikity and many more good times.
Take care sending you a virtual hug from - ElaineGMemberHi Pink 66 - your post was brilliant - can't believe it's now another one year on...
these pts in particular are great because there's now suggestion that 20-30% of all breast cancer diagnoses will progress to MBC, but the second pt is VERY interesting re 9000 people - where did you get this fig from? and I cannot understand in our current health system why this accurate data is not available???? - that is 9000+ women who could be potentially better managed to maximise their lifespan, quality of life and potential employability - therefore a tax payer too.....- approximately 20% of all breast cancer diagnosis will progress to secondaries
- there are approximately 9,000 people living with secondary breast cancer in Australia at the moment (estimates as statistics are NOT kept)
- InkPetalMember
Make "Awareness" actual education <-- This on repeat until it's a reality please.
- Pink66Member
Hi Sparker,
I also have times when I am surrounded my many and still feel totally and utterly alone. I am not sure if it is something you would like to communicate with those close to you but I actually wrote a poem about it and then was privileged enough to be able to read it out at the Field of Women last year. I found it helped those around me to understand how I was feeling just a little better. If you think it may help, please feel free to share it
http://wp.me/p3O6YT-4K
Also, any ideas you have about how to assist those living those secondary breast cancer via the information and forums presented by BCNA I have no doubt they would be very happy to hear about.. If you like, message me with all your thoughts, or contact them directly via email.
cheers, Sharon (pink66)
- Pink66Member
Hi Traveltext, I undertake many presentations and always make sure that the men in the room are left with no illusions that they too need to be paying attention to their own breasts. The room is always surprised that I was under 40 at first diagnosis, then surprised that I am living with secondaries (and look so good LOL) and then when I speak about men their jaws always drop!!
I know a few gentlemen who are indeed 'blue men' we always add one to our mini fields and always get asked what is that and it leads nicely into more people knowing. Living with a secondary diagnosis is certainly challenging enough in a sea of pink and rah rah and uplifting 'i beat cancer' stories (and I understand why as a vast majority are able to move beyond a diagnosis and treatment and it is how they deal with it and yay for them - in its pure form it is an amazing thing to participate in) but I can only imagine being a gentleman dealing with not only breast cancer but also secondaries in a month of pink.
I actually like the whole month on secondary and a day for everyone else but I think the pure numbers would prevent that.. (i actually was thinking about that exact thing just yesterday!!!)
sending hugs your way xoxox - Pink66Member
Vent away.. this place is great for that.. I also understand the burning desire to understand how did this happen.. I have never really asked why me.. It just never really occurred to me as when I saw how many others were sitting in the same situation I knew it was a mega question. I searched for quite a while looking for information that explained things so i could explain it when asked and all I really gained was more questions.. No family history, ate ok, exercised ok. breast fed my son, only had a few xtra kgs. I believe that in time as the cells and genes are cracked open even more perhaps they will find more out but it is the reason that finding how to prevent and the holy grail - a cure is so very hard because BC just will not play by any rules.
Some days I feel as if I had stood on the street, was standing on one leg with my tongue sticking out and right at that moment saw a black cat walk under a ladder which fell and smashed a mirror !!! and yes, that is certainly tongue in cheek. These days I have decided to leave many questions behind as I just cannot find an answer and work on other things.. As I turtle it is my duty now to share my knowledge to anyone who will listen and hopefully spark more discussion and eventually answers to the huge pile of unanswered questions that are sitting in the corner waiting for a friend.
hugs to you. Sharon - KazziMember
Thanks for sharing your beautiful words and photos. You nailed it. You raised issues I have thought about myself ie why call it 'early BC'? and not 'primary'?
Funding research is the key to finding a cure, let alone finding the causes that put us in this position in the first place. No one has been able to answer that question for me. What caused this? I was fit, healthy, ate fresh, slim, breast fed my kids. I'm not prepared to cop it on the chin and just accept that it's 'my bad luck' (which has been told to me!). It's early days for me and I still can't get my heard around it (sorry for venting).
Keep on posting your excellent informative posts.
Karen xx
- traveltextMember
Thanks Sharon, your article is a very clear description of a place nobody living with breast cancer wants to go. I have a stage four friend and he's an inspiration in that he travels and generally gets on with life with hardly a complaint.
Pinkwashing in October is also holding back the diagnosis of males. More on that HERE.
Why not have the whole of October as a focus on secondary bc and have a day set aside for awareness? This way, the message would be stronger and funds raised spent on research for better treatment for those with advanced cancer.
- sparkerMember
What an amazing article! I lay here in bed tonight feeling lost and alone! I have many supportive friends and family, but at times it still feels like you are battling this alone!
I have been to some bcna days organised for woman with early stage breast cancer and they were wonderful, but I still believe that we are living a seperate/different story! Could bcna run some of these workshop days for woman with advanced breast cancer only. It is a hell of a lot different when you are facing your own mortality and not ready to read the material on palative care.
- wenno05Member
Thank you xx