Best wishes for your up and coming surgery.I went flat last year and I had 2 nights in hospital- I think it’s needed.Ditto to everything above, take slip on shoes as you can’t bend down to tie laces.Really take it easy for those first 2wks post op as you are healing internally as well.Once the drains come out(1week?) you’ll move a little easier.A seroma is not uncommon after surgery and may need draining so don’t be alarmed.I wore singlets for a few weeks and then found some soft crop top type bras to wear with abit of soft padding.I haven’t bothered with prosthetics. This will be individual and all trial and error.I was abit surprised seeing my flabby stomach without boobs! I was driving and feeling pretty good by around 3weeks.Mentally though,I think it took me 6mths or so to adjust and feel ok with myself.I joined a Fb group called Flat Life Australia and they are so supportive. We have a flat group here too but it’s not as active.I lived with one big breast and a prosthesis for 12yrs and I have to say it’s a lot easier to be flat.","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:49688"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"TonyaM"},"postTime":"2023-10-17T21:52:18.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":2}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXwy","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":49694,"body":"Hi @SF73 Everyone is different - which is what my breast care nurse said to me after I had a lot of pain after my mastectomy - I was on endone for 6 weeks and I don’t normally even get a headache! Not to say that will be you but if you do get bad pain , take the meds!","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:49688"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"Julez1958"},"postTime":"2023-10-18T02:36:05.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":2}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXwz","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":49699,"body":"https://www.bcna.org.au/services-and-support-groups/services-data/the-pinc-cancer-rehabilitation-program/
There was a DVD, now digital, BCNA Strengthen Your Recovery- it's a stage Pilates program ","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:49688"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"iserbrown"},"postTime":"2023-10-28T16:13:58.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":2}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXw0","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":49689,"body":"Hi @SF73
Good luck with your surgery. I only had a single mastectomy (no reconstruction) but had an axillary clearance (17 lymph nodes). I experienced very little pain with the mastectomy, my hospital was very keen on pain medication which is really good if you need it. Ultimately they were fine about my not doing so! You will have fluid drains for a while and may even be discharged with them so finding a useful way of carrying them around (small bags slung from the shoulder, for example) saves a lot of frustration or tripping over tubes. I only had them for a few days so deep dressing gown pockets worked well.
If you are fussy about tea or coffee, take supplies! Most hospital issue is horrible. I had exercises to do to improve arm mobility - there’s a fair bit of digging around for lymph nodes and your underarm may not feel as if it belongs to you at all for a while. I don’t know if a double mastectomy needs any additional care but I found the exercises easy, and had excellent mobility in my affected arm in a few days. If you can walk around somewhere or even sit outside, it’s good for you. Otherwise books, puzzles, music, whatever you prefer to fill in time, especially in the evenings (hospitals like very early evening meals!).
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:49688"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"Afraser"},"postTime":"2023-10-16T23:51:28.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":1}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXw1","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":49692,"body":"Terrific @SF73 ... you may need 2 cushions - one for each arm. I know that my arm didn't like being flat on the bed for ages .... and now I use the cushion for when I am reading in bed to elevate my head that little bit! ;)
All the best with the weight loss - I'd love to lose up to 10kg ..... but i hate dieting! LOL And not too fussed on exercising either! DUH! xx
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I was just wondering if anyone had any tips for the hospital visit and recovery time? Anything you would have liked to know beforehand? I have just gone and bought a couple of button up PJ tops and a few button shirts for home.
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I have finished 5 months of chemo and next step on 1st November is a double mastectomy and R lymph node clearance, I have chosen no reconstruction.
I was just wondering if anyone had any tips for the hospital visit and recovery time? Anything you would have liked to know beforehand? I have just gone and bought a couple of button up PJ tops and a few button shirts for home.
Thanks :)","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2023-10-16T23:38:33.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:double-mastectomy","text":"double-mastectomy","time":"2025-03-25T05:02:18.791-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}},{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDI","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:recovery","text":"recovery","time":"2025-03-25T05:02:17.627-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:49688_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":320},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"searchSnippet":"Hi All, I have finished 5 months of chemo and next step on 1st November is a double mastectomy and R lymph node clearance, I have chosen no reconstruction. 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About to have double mastectomy no reconstruction - any tips?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:49690"},"body":"So sorry to see you here @SF73, joining the club no-one wants to join! :( Well done on finishing the chemo - I hope you didn't have bad side effects xx
Feel free to join the \"Flat Chat'' group - which deals with all things 'no reconstruction' ... with pics & tips. An 'aesthetic flat closure' can actually look really cool. I caught up with a buddy on the weekend who had the double, flat - and she showed me hers & I showed her mine (lumpectomy) and I wish I'd asked if I could take a pic, as hers was SO tidy. She requested of her surgeon for 'no tags or dags' (ie unsightly bits) and he delivered.
Jump onto this thread & it covers a lot of areas on the forum - including what to take to hospital - those front 'do up' PJ tops will be great!! We show off our furkids, art & craft, our gardens - and even get some laughs with the jokes!! There are 'tick sheets' that you can fill in, to self asses yourself as you go thru your recovery xx. Take a copy along for your team to check out as well. https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/discussion/23477/a-big-welcome-to-all-our-new-members#latest
I only had a lumpectomy - but my top tip is to NOT let the pain break thru after the surgery & when at home. Keep the painkillers up to it, at the dose suggested. xx. Oooh - and take earplugs AND an eye mask to the hospital with you, as they are noisy bright places & you'll NEED your sleep!! Do the exercises that you are advised (don't OVER do them, or it may set you back ....) and accept ANY help that is offered to you from family & friends - be it mowing the lawn, meals or taking the kids on 'breaks' - so you have the best recovery.
Have you been assigned a Breast Care nurse yet? Ask them about a Zonta Cushion .... when you go home, your arms may be more comfy at night if they are supported in bed.
Ask away, ANY questions - remember - there are NO silly questions.
take care & all the best xx","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"218","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-10-17T03:39:55.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-10-17T03:39:55.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:newly-diagnosed/community:nkyiu94732board:general-newly-diagnosed/message:49688/message:49690","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2223","rawBody":"So sorry to see you here @SF73, joining the club no-one wants to join! :( Well done on finishing the chemo - I hope you didn't have bad side effects xx
Feel free to join the \"Flat Chat'' group - which deals with all things 'no reconstruction' ... with pics & tips. An 'aesthetic flat closure' can actually look really cool. I caught up with a buddy on the weekend who had the double, flat - and she showed me hers & I showed her mine (lumpectomy) and I wish I'd asked if I could take a pic, as hers was SO tidy. She requested of her surgeon for 'no tags or dags' (ie unsightly bits) and he delivered.
Jump onto this thread & it covers a lot of areas on the forum - including what to take to hospital - those front 'do up' PJ tops will be great!! We show off our furkids, art & craft, our gardens - and even get some laughs with the jokes!! There are 'tick sheets' that you can fill in, to self asses yourself as you go thru your recovery xx. Take a copy along for your team to check out as well. https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/discussion/23477/a-big-welcome-to-all-our-new-members#latest
I only had a lumpectomy - but my top tip is to NOT let the pain break thru after the surgery & when at home. Keep the painkillers up to it, at the dose suggested. xx. Oooh - and take earplugs AND an eye mask to the hospital with you, as they are noisy bright places & you'll NEED your sleep!! Do the exercises that you are advised (don't OVER do them, or it may set you back ....) and accept ANY help that is offered to you from family & friends - be it mowing the lawn, meals or taking the kids on 'breaks' - so you have the best recovery.
Have you been assigned a Breast Care nurse yet? Ask them about a Zonta Cushion .... when you go home, your arms may be more comfy at night if they are supported in bed.
Ask away, ANY questions - remember - there are NO silly questions.
take care & all the best xx","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:49690_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:16650":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:16650","uid":16650,"login":"Afraser","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-03-24T19:34:07.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/legacyfs/online/userpics/595/pF56ENKPV9PRD.jpg"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:16650"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:49689":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:49689","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:49689":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:16650"},"id":"message:49689","revisionNum":1,"uid":49689,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:49688"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:49688"},"subject":"Re: About to have double mastectomy no reconstruction - any tips?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:49689"},"body":"Hi @SF73
Good luck with your surgery. I only had a single mastectomy (no reconstruction) but had an axillary clearance (17 lymph nodes). I experienced very little pain with the mastectomy, my hospital was very keen on pain medication which is really good if you need it. Ultimately they were fine about my not doing so! You will have fluid drains for a while and may even be discharged with them so finding a useful way of carrying them around (small bags slung from the shoulder, for example) saves a lot of frustration or tripping over tubes. I only had them for a few days so deep dressing gown pockets worked well.
If you are fussy about tea or coffee, take supplies! Most hospital issue is horrible. I had exercises to do to improve arm mobility - there’s a fair bit of digging around for lymph nodes and your underarm may not feel as if it belongs to you at all for a while. I don’t know if a double mastectomy needs any additional care but I found the exercises easy, and had excellent mobility in my affected arm in a few days. If you can walk around somewhere or even sit outside, it’s good for you. Otherwise books, puzzles, music, whatever you prefer to fill in time, especially in the evenings (hospitals like very early evening meals!).
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-10-16T23:51:28.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-10-16T23:51:28.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:newly-diagnosed/community:nkyiu94732board:general-newly-diagnosed/message:49688/message:49689","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1334","rawBody":"Hi @SF73
Good luck with your surgery. I only had a single mastectomy (no reconstruction) but had an axillary clearance (17 lymph nodes). I experienced very little pain with the mastectomy, my hospital was very keen on pain medication which is really good if you need it. Ultimately they were fine about my not doing so! You will have fluid drains for a while and may even be discharged with them so finding a useful way of carrying them around (small bags slung from the shoulder, for example) saves a lot of frustration or tripping over tubes. I only had them for a few days so deep dressing gown pockets worked well.
If you are fussy about tea or coffee, take supplies! Most hospital issue is horrible. I had exercises to do to improve arm mobility - there’s a fair bit of digging around for lymph nodes and your underarm may not feel as if it belongs to you at all for a while. I don’t know if a double mastectomy needs any additional care but I found the exercises easy, and had excellent mobility in my affected arm in a few days. If you can walk around somewhere or even sit outside, it’s good for you. Otherwise books, puzzles, music, whatever you prefer to fill in time, especially in the evenings (hospitals like very early evening meals!).
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:49689_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1742938040000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1742938040000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1742938040000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1742938040000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1742938040000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1742938040000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1742938040000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1742938040000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1742938040000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1742938040000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1742938040000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1742938040000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1742938040000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1742938040000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1742938040000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1742938040000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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