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  • positive3negative
    positive3negative Member Posts: 323 ✭
    edited March 2015

    Oh the voice of reason! Unfortunately the conversation seems to deteriorate considerably from here on down with lots of people claiming to 'know' all about nutrition and cancer. I often wonder  if people would be so liberal with their advice if they were held legally accountable for it.  

  • jandy23
    jandy23 Member Posts: 234 ✭
    edited March 2015

    Of course doctors can and do recommend a healthy diet. Perhaps some do recommend particular foods. But my personal experience positive3negative has been that other than recommend vitamin D supplements, medical professionals - my oncologist, nurses, a dietician - have all been unwilling to recommend anything more specific in realtion to diet than to eat a balanced diet with lots of vegetables. That's fine as far as it goes.

    But it seems to me that certain foods are mentioned time and time again - in books, on websites, in scientific literature - as showing promise in minimising the risk of cancer occuring or recurring. These include cruciferous vegetables in particular, green tea, flaxseeds, carrots, apples, high fibre foods, omega-3 oils, walnuts, pomegranates to name a few. (I certainly don't claim to know everything on this topic.)

    I don't think anyone on this feed has suggested that eating any one or any combination of these foods will prevent or cure cancer. In fact I took particular care to avoid making that suggestion in my posts. I agree that scientific literature is difficult for the layperson to interpret and  I understand that what may kill cancer cells in a petri dish doesn't necessarily work in the human body. And I also agree that we should discuss any dietry changes with our oncologists (especially while undergoing chemo).

    But my point was that when study after study is suggesting that  a particular food may reduce the risk of cancer, and that food is generally healthy to eat anyway, it would seem reasonable to recommend to cancer patients to include that food in their diet. If doctors were more willing to do this, lay people, like myself and others on this site, wouldn't be forced to trawl through the internet trying to work out for ourselves what sources we should and shouln't trust.

    I think you are selling the women on this site short. I've read barely any posts on this network about miracle cures through food or other means. I doubt that any of us after what we've been through expect to achieve total control over our health. However, i think all of us want to do whatever we can to safeguard our health as far as that is possible. And I for one would appreciate a little more information from the medical professionials about what the latest research is indicating in regard to food, information that may help tip the balance a little way in our favor. 

     

     

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  • positive3negative
    positive3negative Member Posts: 323 ✭
    edited March 2015

    I'm in awe of my doctors and their ability just to stay current in their relative fields of experttise. I think it's unreasonable to also expect them to  be across all of the research into food. 

    We're obviously not reading the same posts and I have seen several posts on this site that state categorically that a certain food or supplement will cure or prevent cancer without any reference to any research that backs this up. There's also links to people like 'Doctor Mercola' and reference to a number of other dubious sites. 

    The reason I responded was because I think your statement about there being no harm in trying things on the basis that they can't hurt you can be incorrect. People can jeopardise their treatment with supplements or radical diets, or even by just eating far too much of something that would be healthy in normal quantities. I wanted to offer an alternative view because I think people need to be very careful about what they eat.

    My oncologist has expressed her frustration regarding mushroom based supplements and alkaline diets along with anit-oxidant supplements. While all of these might be fine when we're out of chemo, we shouldn't risk counteractive foods or supplements. 

    When it comes to recommendind alternative treatments I'm with Tim Minchin: "Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proven to work? Medicine."


  • Cobie
    Cobie Member Posts: 44
    edited March 2015

    isnt that amazing Julia,, i have been told that they are not good for my cancer and for the helth of me,,, so i just taking the word of the preffeciionals and not eating them,,,i have however taken to eating apples,, i have been told they are good for me,,, so when i talk to a diatition she tells me that apples are not good for me,, so who do i believe,, im just eating what i think is right but still staying away from mushrooms tho..

     

    i will be checking out other sites tho,, if i find any that are interesting tho i will post them..

     

    hope u had a lovely chrissy and go hard for new year,,xx

  • Cobie
    Cobie Member Posts: 44
    edited March 2015

    hey all,, well its been a long time between blogs for me,, things sure have changed for me in the last 6 months,,

    chrissy was good,, went and saw my sister in Esperance with my middle daughter,, but before that on the 13th dec 2013 my marriage ended,, yesss,,,,, oh well shit happens i guess,,

    when i got back from Esperance i packed up my house while he watched tv day in day out,, lovely bloke ah! ans that time of the yr its DAM hot,, it sure wore me out.

    then January 2014 i started a new life,, in West Ballidu,,WA,, and i love it,, im living on a farm of 2000achers and i only have to manage 1 acher hahah i have my animals down here and i love it,,,,

    now i have been going to RPH in perth for treatment and Onc,, now i have to have Denosumab needles cos my calcium levels are low and dam Cruella is attacking my spine and has broken a rib,,, onya i say!!!!

    i wnt be participating in the Mothers day walk ths year unfortunately,, need to get my bones in shape ahaha not my body haha

    take it easy you all,,, cobie

     

  • VivW
    VivW Member Posts: 266
    edited March 2015

    Hi all, just an update, I have this for breakfast with banana & maple syrup or honey and milk. Researching the buckwheat (actually seeds, nothing to do with wheat) is interesting, make up your own minds, but this tastes great if you like porridge on these cold mornings . Sourced all at Woolies.

    Overnight Buckwheat & Steel Cut Oats Breakfast  

    Ingredients

    ·                     1 cup raw buckwheat groats (not toasted aka kasha)

    ·                     1 cup wholegrain oats

    ·                     5 cups water

    ·                     1 teaspoon cinnamon

    ·                     1/2 teaspoon cardamom

    ·                     1 teaspoon ground vanilla or vanilla extract

    ·                     pinch of himilayan salt


    Optional ideas for topping:

    ·                     chopped dates, raisins, apricots or other dried fruit, unsweetened coconut flakes, fresh berry's of all kind,  coconut, almond, hazelnut or any non-dairy milk,  pure maple syrup, coconut sugar or other sweetener of choice, nuts and seeds of all kinds


    In dutch oven or large pot, bring water and remaining ingredients to a boil, cover, reduce heat to low and simmer for 5 minutes. Remove from heat, give a good stir, add more water as needed, replace lid and let sit overnight. Or you can carefully fill your mason jars (or other containers), cover and let sit overnight. Porridge will be fine on the counter, but if you wish you can place it in the refrigerator and it will still be fine.The next day fill your jars with a mix of toppings for grab & go time or simply top each jar when ready to eat.

    I prefer to eat my porridge at room temp but you can heat yours either in the microwave for a minute or two.

    Serves 5 - 6. Will last up to 5 days in the refrigerator.


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