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Mic80Mic80 Member Posts: 44
edited August 2019 in Day to day
Evening lovelies, 
I have been having a hard time lately with being empathetic with my friends and family over, what seems to me, such trivial problems. I understand everything is relative to whats going on in everyone’s world but I feel that this is causing a rift in between mine and my family and friends relationships and I’m feeling a little lost and frustrated... am I being completely selfish or is what I  feeling at least a little bit normal!? In addition to this I  constantly checking in and asking about their lives and i get the full run down but when it comes to me I feel I can’t really tell them what’s going on as they just don’t understand x


  • arpiearpie Mid North Coast, NSWMember Posts: 3,889
    edited August 2019
    I agree with you as well - SInce our diagnosis, surgery & treatments - Our 'Bullshit Meter Level' has been raised to 'extremely high' - and I don't think we are over reacting to dumb comments!!

    Last year, just days after my Rads finished, my sister visited & as I tend to 'put up a front' with visitors/strangers - she went off telling everyone that I was FINE! Nothing wrong with me! Hmmm, As if she knows how deep this whole BC thing really affects us!  She hasn't really had ANY health challenges .... yet.  We are usually at each other's throats within minutes of getting together and I was trying SO HARD for that not to happen this time - but it did!  You'd think after 65 years of it, we'd have worked out the 'triggers'??  Not her!  So thank GOD she lives in Qld!!

    I am no longer very tolerant of anyone saying anything stupid these days even outside of the BC world - but sadly, you can't cure dumb!!  (I've gotten into trouble for using that phrase recently too!  LOL) Because of it, I've been 'unfriended' by numerous acquaintances (I wouldn't call them 'friends') on FB because I actually disagreed on FB with a (former) buddy who said that Australians should have the same gun laws as the USA  ..... so they can shoot anyone that causes them a threat!  HELLO?? (And this was BEFORE the looney went running thru Sydney streets last week with a knife - imagine if he'd had an automatic weapon?  It would have been a cold blooded slaughter!) And that wasn't exactly a trivial matter!

    I bite my tongue a lot these days and re-read anything that I post in an effort not to offend .... but occasionally I slip up!  Ooops!  Bad luck.
  • Annie CAnnie C Member Posts: 717
    Ah Friends and family.

    Over the last 2 years I have lost some, gained some and retained some.

    As you progress through treatment and then into survivorship you will find that this is NORMAL.

    it is sad to realise this, however for some non BC women a diagnosis of BC in one of their friends or family brings home the message, "hey it could have been me".

    I had a friend from down south who asked to come up and "look after me". I wish I had said no. Two weeks after surgery was too soon to have a house guest. I was too emotional, too depressed,  still trying to work out what the hell happened me. That friendship is lost.

    Some friends I ditched. They were too hard work. Some were too "advisory" (eat this, don't eat this, I told you sugar was bad), some too judgemental (what did you do to cause it).

    As @arpie said my "bullshit meter" is now in overdrive. 

    The good friends and family will walk beside you with an arm around your shoulders. That is all that is needed.

    The others- they will gradually wean themselves out of your company. Let them go, you do not need the stress.

    Warm Kimberley wishes to you 

  • AfraserAfraser MelbourneMember Posts: 2,966
    On a more positive note, I don’t think anything changed for me because of bc. Over 7 years yes, some friendships are stronger, others less so but bc wasn’t the reason. BUT I was remarkably well throughout active treatment; I didn’t have to adjust to leaving work and then resuming, or trying to resume, work, because I never left; I wasn’t distressed about talking about cancer/treatment if asked. All of this made it easy for others and at no cost or difficulty to me, which makes a massive difference. Many people are hugely uncomfortable about illness and particularly about illnesses that might kill. Just remember that is their problem to deal with (or not) not your problem, you have cancer to deal with. Best wishes. 
  • kmakmkmakm MelbourneMember Posts: 7,903
    I'm happy to say I lost no friends, strengthened some friendships and made some new friends through my BC.

    I debunk every bullshit cancer myth that people endlessly trot out but I do it with honesty and without emotion, despite the fact that it's often tempting to yell "utter rubbish" at the top of my voice. Mostly people are ignorant and then interested when I explain.
  • iserbrowniserbrown Regional VictoriaMember Posts: 4,124


    At present you have an heightened awareness of everything around you including your own health and the constant appointments.  Others are quite often so self-absorbed that they come across as not caring.  
    Things will settle and in the circle of it all some friends will stay and others will drop off.  
    I lost a friend of 40 years because all of a sudden it was about me and that's not her nature, centre of attention type person!  Occasionally I miss her but if I think a little longer I think no she was part of the season that is over!

    Take care and best wishes in sorting it out and please don't let it get to you!  Concentrate on yourself and your immediate family and upcoming treatment 

  • Mic80Mic80 Member Posts: 44
    Yeah everything is very heightened and I guess I just need to try to be more patient and remember my health is my issue and not everyone else’s. I think I’m just feeling a little lonely and scared in this “journey”
    thanks for all your thoughts xx
  • JennyD78JennyD78 NewcastleMember Posts: 53
    I kind of took pleasure in other people's trivial stuff while I was doing treatment.  I felt like my stuff was so big that it was really hard to talk about, and I'd get to feeling like it was all I ever talked about, so I'd encourage them to talk about the silly things.  Anything to take the focus off my bs situation.
  • youngdogmumyoungdogmum Gold Coast Member Posts: 249
    I've had has a really difficult time with friends this year. I'm of the belief if they weren't there for me these past six months I don't want them in my life anymore.
  • iserbrowniserbrown Regional VictoriaMember Posts: 4,124
    @youngdogmum - in time friends come and go! 
    Some friends are good times only, they don't have the emotional capacity to cope with their own ups and downs, let alone someone else's
    The ones you least expect are sometimes the ones that provide support, emotionally and or practically
    My dear friend of 40 years, that I mentioned earlier, was always centre of attention and down most of the time and it was me that would lift her, because I wanted to see her in a better place, however, there was no return favour when I needed it, hence she is part of a season that is over

    Take care 
  • kmakmkmakm MelbourneMember Posts: 7,903
    @youngdogmum I'm sorry to say it but I agree with you. However I don't believe it has to be angst ridden. Mentally thank them for the good times, and let them go with ease. They weren't up for the bad times, it's just the way they are. You have been forged in a hotter fire than them and they have nothing to contribute to your life anymore.

    I am very fond of the Maya Angelou quote:

    "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

    Big hug lovely, K xox
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