Struggling through Chemo
Hi all, My nurse has just introduced me to this group. I’m hoping to connect and share my story and hopefully somehow feel better. After being diagnosed and a short time later having a mastectomy and all lymph nodes removed, chemo started just before Christmas and I am struggling with it! Ive got another 2 months of chemo before 5 weeks of Radiation…… would love to hear other stories. I have a fantastic support group of family, friends and colleagues but they just can’t possibly understand what I’m going through. Looking forward to connecting 😊
Post chemo hair ....everywhere!!
So my hair is growing back with a vengeance, but not just on my head. My face is unbelievably hairy - thankfully white so not too obvious, but it’s on my cheeks, chin even my nose has little fine white hairs. So, if others have experienced thus, what did you use to get rid of it?
Questions to ask 'Post Surgery' of yourself - to your Specialists - Tick Sheets - Self assessment
I know that after my own surgery, I didn't always quite know what questions to ask of my surgeon and 'the team' that we all see regularly for the first 5 years following our treatment - so I set about looking for 'tick sheets' that would help me, as these appointments approached! I came across some really interesting files. They are all 'multi paged' so I've put a 'sample page' from each document to give you an idea of what is in it. The first booklet is available at most Cancer Clinics and was put out by the Cancer Council - 'Living Well After Cancer'. It is a good one to give to friends & relatives to read as well - to give them an idea of the longterm affects of cancer even after successful treatment - as they often think that once you've had your surgery, chemo, rads & tabs - that you are now 'well'. We all know that that is NOT necessarily the case! :( It really is a lifetime sentence. This booklet covers a lot of areas that concern us all - and may be able to help answer questions in many situations that we face. (sample page) The 2nd one is: "Questions to ask 'post cancer' " - a 'tick sheet' - these questions could be spread across the whole team - your surgeon, Onc and Rad Onc as well as GP. Tick the ones that are relevant to you in the lead up to your individual appointments. (sample page) The next is "Self Care Specific Symptoms" - this sheet could also be for any of your team - with the 2nd section relating more to mental health issues that may impact you. (sample sheet) And finally - a Survivorship Care Plan - virtually a ''Self Assessment Yearly Checkup'' sheet .... which has more specific symptoms that you may be concerned about and also has pages for noting yearly checkups required re Dexa, Mammograms, Colonoscopy, MRI etc - almost a 'diary' to keep re future appointments. (sample Pages) Write down the dates you've had them, and when the next one is. Add any other exams that are not already there You can use any or all of these documents to track how you feel you are progressing - date them & further down the track, you can compare them to see how you are travelling. Take care & I hope these sheets help in tracking your health - both mental and physical. xxx
Black nail polish for chemo
Hello all, I am about to have my 3rd round of TC in 2 days time. I noticed that 4 of my fingers have darken a bit. During the last 2 sessions, I did have my fingers painted with black nail polish. Would anyone know the main purpose of black nail polish, is it for blocking out UV rays during summer? Since it's winter now and I don't do out much, should I still continue painting my nails with black nail polish? Or is nail strengthener good enough? Thanks.
Trodelvy - any info to share?
Hi, I am reaching out to see if anyone else has commenced Trodelvy chemotherapy and if yes, what are your side effects experiences. I am only in 1st cycle, 2 weeks on/1 week off. Main reaction has been some insomnia and bad fatigue. Wondering about hair loss and at what stage, if anyone has experienced this? Does fatigue get worse? Any other lurking side effects to be aware of?
Heart aflutter again.
I just spent the day in hospital with a heart flutter. I am on beta blockers, as it happened about March last year too. Not sure if it is my age or a follow on from the 2016 chemo but it is annoying to have what is basically 2 heart rhythms working against each other. The doc said a second rhythm can start and it says, 'I can get there faster' and takes over. The old rhythm says, 'no way', and they fight. I took extra beta blockers and it slowed both beats down until one gave up and went back to sleep. Hospital just had to keep an eye on me and monitor and it eventually settled down and came good and they released me. I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow who I imagine will either increase the dose rate or try me on another type. https://www.healthline.com/health/living-with-atrial-fibrillation/paroxysmal#progression
More research needed into side-effects of chemo and hormone therapy
In our BCNA network, many members report unexpected, painful and ongoing side-effects during and after chemotherapy and hormone therapy; for example in a recent discussion on ‘hormone therapy and tendon issues’. Sometimes treating medical staff seem to be unsure about causes and best treatment for side-effects. I read a study 'Incidence and severity of self-reported chemotherapy side-effects in routine care' (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0184360#sec013 ) This study reports that knowledge about side-effects comes largely from clinical trials. There is little evidence coming from normal clinical care. In this study 449 people with breast, lung or bowel cancer were interviewed and asked questions about their side-effects. The study found that “3/4 of individuals undergoing chemotherapy in NSW will experience multiple side-effects during their treatment, and for over 60% this will include a serious side-effect.” The study found that side-effects were similar across the three cancer types. The authors suggest that “this information is useful for both clinicians and policy makers, who typically make treatment and funding decisions for standard practice, but often on the basis of potentially unrealistic clinical trials. This work also confirms the need for side effects to be collected using patient-reported methods, to be monitored throughout chemotherapy treatment, and highlights the importance of observational data in providing information for decision-makers that is relevant to the clinical practice setting.” Have a look at this study; it is very interesting and readable, and brings up lots of questions and ideas. Although this study is about chemo side-effects, and does not include hormone therapy side-effects; I am thinking that a similar study is needed to measure hormone therapy side-effects in the real world.New member - Question re oral chemotherapy capecitabine
Original post created by member @Brondocs - moved to Metastatic breast cancer discussions Hello, I am a new member and appreciate so much hearing everyone’s stories. In May 2018, I was at work and as I brushed some fluff off my shirt I felt a golf ball sized lump on my chest. This turned out to be triple negative breast cancer and the lump had literally popped up overnight. I know this because I am small breasted and would have noticed if it had been there before. Within two weeks I was in surgery for a lumpectomy which was the easiest part of the whole process. The cancer had not spread to my lymph glands so I felt lucky. I then started 6 months of chemo. For the first four months of the heavy going chemo I was sicker than I ever imagined from the side effects. I ended up staying in hospital each time. But after that, when I went to once a week lighter chemo, I was managing pretty well. I was also part of an exercise physio research program which really helped me feel as If I had one thing to help me through. Then I had a month of radiotherapy – which was fine. THEN I had two years of great health until February this year when I developed a recurrent cough. I thought it was some sort of asthma, so I went to my GP who send me for a chest Xray. I was completely shocked to find out I had metastatic cancer all through my lungs, in my brain and in my neck. I had a week’s radiotherapy on my brain which had horrible side effects ( nausea, headaches, hair loss) combined with starting the heavy going chemo for the next 6 months. Again, I had terrible side effects – mainly trouble breathing, dizziness, exhaustion and clotting in my arms for the first four months, so spend more time back in hospital. My oncologist has moved me now onto an oral chemotherapy- capecitabine. I was wondering if anyone else was taking this and if the exhaustion from the 6 months of strong chemo infusions will dissipate or persist ? I haven’t had any additional side effects so far. My insomnia is also persisting and quite a few of the other side effects from the infusions. Any advice or info much appreciated !Tips for Chemo and Radiation
Last year going through chemo I wrote down things which helped as I went through treatment to share with three friends coming behind me. Some is advice I got from other patients, some from doctors, some from nurses, some from online. Now I'm out the other side I've been meaning to post it here in case it can help someone else. If you are starting chemo just know you will get through it and its often not as terrible as you think it might be. Stay positive, moan when you want to, it will end eventually! Also I would love it if anyone has their own tips to add. (I recognise these are specific to me and may not be right for everyone.) CHEMO 1. Walk everyday. Try for at least half an hour a day. Try and make someone you love come with you. I found it so good for limiting side effects, it is my number one tip! And becoming recognised by cancer researchers around the world. Watch the Catalyst special on ABC. Its good for the anxious brain, good for your emotional and physical health and if you can debrief with someone as you walk even better. Walk everyday, even chemo days. You will feel like a warrior! 2. Get a port. You can try without but if you are having 16 infusions like me you will be glad you did it, and your nurses will love you. And get it before you start chemo. It hurts the first day it goes in but gets better quite quickly. 3. Use Emla patches on your port before chemo. They numb the site. I just asked for them from the nurses each week. Set a reminder to put it on one hour before. The only week I forgot they placed the needle three times before it worked, yikes! I use them for Herceptin injections too. 4. If your port doesn’t work try stretching your neck up and coughing to get it going or raising your opposite arm. Nurse tips. 5. If you get a Neulasta injection for after AC take Claratyne for a couple of days with it as it is meant to stop related bone pain. 6. Either AC chemo or Neulasta gives you constipation . Be proactive. Take Coloxyl with senna on the day you get your infusion and until you poo. 7. Hair falls out from 14 days on. Mine fell out about day 21. Get someone to shave it when it looks bad. Have a shower, let the water run on your head, that first feeling of water on your bald head is quite amazing! Have some scarves and hats and beanies ready and even a wig. Go to the wig libary beforehand. I won't lie, losing your hair is pretty hard at first but you get used to it quickly and after a while you just own it and put on a brave face. I got more compliments on my scarves and now with my short hair than I did before! 8. Go to a Look Good Feel Better session. Free makeup and great advice and meet other people going through the same shit. And they teach you how to rock a headscarf. 9. Do Cold Therapy if doing Paclitaxel. Look up my post on the forum. Latex gloves and a bucket of ice for hands and Natracure socks for feet. This can save you having Peripheral Neuropathy and losing your nails. 10. Check with your onco but limit steroids, ie taper sooner if having bad side effects and your nausea is controlled. I am sensitive to that sort of thing and was much better with a lower dose. 11. Suck ice during chemo to stop mouth ulcers. I didn’t do this but had it recommended. If you get ulcers rinse mouth with salt water, I bought Peter Mac (hospital) brand sachets on Ebay. Easy to use, nice taste. 12. Acid throat and chalky mouth is bad in AC. Use Gaviscon dual action tablets, try staying upright. 13. Your skin will go bad and then improve. But it turns over so much slower so look after it. Use a drop of rosehip oil in your moisturiser (another BC friend tip) and do your hands and face every day. Sores heal slowly so be careful with them. 14. Some of your small moles will drop off? Some will go a bit weird. Your skin closes up. 15. Watery sore eyes and nose will come and go. Eyedrops if eyes get sore. I use antihistamine drops. Carry tissues! 16. Bloody scabby nose. One of my worst side effects, very bad in Paclitaxel. Can try putting a bit of pawpaw up there. Goes away quite quickly when you finish! 17. AC is hard, go dose dense and get it over with in 8 weeks. Paclitaxel is easier but going every week is not, its exhausting having to turn up 12 weeks in a row. You will be very tired by the end but the moment you stop things start to improve! About day ten afterwards you will feel a change. Your energy will come back quickly! 18. The eyelashes and eyebrows you hung on to will fall out after you finish Paclitaxel. Boo! Not fair. 19. Your hair will come back even if it doesn't seem like it ever will. Six weeks is the moment it really starts happening. RADIATION 20. Radiation is a breeze compared to chemo. No needles, no poison! Once you get used to making small talk with the nurses while lying with your boobs out you’re good. :smile: Make friends with the people before and after you. You are on the downhill stretch! 21. Strataxrt cream. I was lucky enough to get a sample pack of this from my rad/onco. I have nothing to compare it too but everyone was impressed with my skin and minimal reaction. But its very expensive, ask your onc if they have some free stuff. For 20 days of radiation about a 50ml tube would do. 22. After radiation I still have a slight tanned area and my whole breast and nipple peeled afterwards. Ow! Radiation is good for your lumpectomy scar though. Lightens it! And you won’t have to shave that armpit afterwards! LIFE 23. Tell people how you’re going even if they don’t ask. Love on those people that stay the distance. Cancer is such a scary thing for everyone and some people don’t know how to talk to you. Make it easier on them. 24. Come to BCNA if you need help. So many nice people here willing to share. 25. As my Mum used to say, Time and the hour run through the roughest day. You will get to the other side. Be gentle on yourself. Be distracted. Nice things will still happen in among the shitty bits. You are brave, you are amazing, be kind to yourself xxx <3
