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Tips for Chemo and Radiation
Last year going through chemo I wrote down things which helped as I went through treatment to share with three friends coming behind me. Some is advice I got from other patients, some from doctors, some from nurses, some from online. Now I'm out the other side I've been meaning to post it here in case it can help someone else.
If you are starting chemo just know you will get through it and its often not as terrible as you think it might be. Stay positive, moan when you want to, it will end eventually!
Also I would love it if anyone has their own tips to add. (I recognise these are specific to me and may not be right for everyone.)
CHEMO
1. Walk everyday. Try for at least half an hour a day. Try and make someone you love come with you. I found it so good for limiting side effects, it is my number one tip! And becoming recognised by cancer researchers around the world. Watch the Catalyst special on ABC. Its good for the anxious brain, good for your emotional and physical health and if you can debrief with someone as you walk even better. Walk everyday, even chemo days. You will feel like a warrior!
2. Get a port. You can try without but if you are having 16 infusions like me you will be glad you did it, and your nurses will love you. And get it before you start chemo. It hurts the first day it goes in but gets better quite quickly.
3. Use Emla patches on your port before chemo. They numb the site. I just asked for them from the nurses each week. Set a reminder to put it on one hour before. The only week I forgot they placed the needle three times before it worked, yikes! I use them for Herceptin injections too.
4. If your port doesn’t work try stretching your neck up and coughing to get it going or raising your opposite arm. Nurse tips.
5. If you get a Neulasta injection for after AC take Claratyne for a couple of days with it as it is meant to stop related bone pain.
6. Either AC chemo or Neulasta gives you constipation . Be proactive. Take Coloxyl with senna on the day you get your infusion and until you poo.
7. Hair falls out from 14 days on. Mine fell out about day 21. Get someone to shave it when it looks bad. Have a shower, let the water run on your head, that first feeling of water on your bald head is quite amazing! Have some scarves and hats and beanies ready and even a wig. Go to the wig libary beforehand. I won't lie, losing your hair is pretty hard at first but you get used to it quickly and after a while you just own it and put on a brave face. I got more compliments on my scarves and now with my short hair than I did before!
8. Go to a Look Good Feel Better session. Free makeup and great advice and meet other people going through the same shit. And they teach you how to rock a headscarf.
9. Do Cold Therapy if doing Paclitaxel. Look up my post on the forum. Latex gloves and a bucket of ice for hands and Natracure socks for feet. This can save you having Peripheral Neuropathy and losing your nails.
10. Check with your onco but limit steroids, ie taper sooner if having bad side effects and your nausea is controlled. I am sensitive to that sort of thing and was much better with a lower dose.
11. Suck ice during chemo to stop mouth ulcers. I didn’t do this but had it recommended. If you get ulcers rinse mouth with salt water, I bought Peter Mac (hospital) brand sachets on Ebay. Easy to use, nice taste.
12. Acid throat and chalky mouth is bad in AC. Use Gaviscon dual action tablets, try staying upright.
13. Your skin will go bad and then improve. But it turns over so much slower so look after it. Use a drop of rosehip oil in your moisturiser (another BC friend tip) and do your hands and face every day. Sores heal slowly so be careful with them.
14. Some of your small moles will drop off? Some will go a bit weird. Your skin closes up.
15. Watery sore eyes and nose will come and go. Eyedrops if eyes get sore. I use antihistamine drops. Carry tissues!
16. Bloody scabby nose. One of my worst side effects, very bad in Paclitaxel. Can try putting a bit of pawpaw up there. Goes away quite quickly when you finish!
17. AC is hard, go dose dense and get it over with in 8 weeks. Paclitaxel is easier but going every week is not, its exhausting having to turn up 12 weeks in a row. You will be very tired by the end but the moment you stop things start to improve! About day ten afterwards you will feel a change. Your energy will come back quickly!
18. The eyelashes and eyebrows you hung on to will fall out after you finish Paclitaxel. Boo! Not fair.
19. Your hair will come back even if it doesn't seem like it ever will. Six weeks is the moment it really starts happening.
RADIATION
20. Radiation is a breeze compared to chemo. No needles, no poison! Once you get used to making small talk with the nurses while lying with your boobs out you’re good. :smile: Make friends with the people before and after you. You are on the downhill stretch!
21. Strataxrt cream. I was lucky enough to get a sample pack of this from my rad/onco. I have nothing to compare it too but everyone was impressed with my skin and minimal reaction. But its very expensive, ask your onc if they have some free stuff. For 20 days of radiation about a 50ml tube would do.
22. After radiation I still have a slight tanned area and my whole breast and nipple peeled afterwards. Ow! Radiation is good for your lumpectomy scar though. Lightens it! And you won’t have to shave that armpit afterwards!
LIFE
23. Tell people how you’re going even if they don’t ask. Love on those people that stay the distance. Cancer is such a scary thing for everyone and some people don’t know how to talk to you. Make it easier on them.
24. Come to BCNA if you need help. So many nice people here willing to share.
25. As my Mum used to say, Time and the hour run through the roughest day. You will get to the other side. Be gentle on yourself. Be distracted. Nice things will still happen in among the shitty bits.
You are brave, you are amazing, be kind to yourself xxx
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46 Replies
- Newbie3312MemberHi just reading thru messages etc. wondering if it’s normal to be red already only after 2 radiation treatments?! I have moo goo and have started using that. Will speak to nurses Monday just noticed this afternoon I’m very red 🥴🤷♀️
- SisterMemberGreat list. As @kezmusc says (and I say ad nauseum) don't suffer in silence if the meds you get sent home with don't work. Ring the clinic and get something better.
Sorbolene for general body moisturiser, BioOil for the scar, and MooGoo during radiation. Check with your radiation place and ask if they do Mepitel - it's a bit of a pain but it does work. - Cath62MemberThanks so much everything. Will let you know how I go
- kezmuscMemberAll the best @Cath62.
Everybody reacts so differently. . It's pretty daunting reading the long list of things that can happen and all the things you "should" do.
After the first one they can tweak things to suit and you get into a bit of a routine as when the good and not so good days will be.
To be honest I loved the steroid high on day two and three. Got so much done and it was a good time to plan any social things I wanted to do. Number 4 AC was pretty rough rough but by then it was over. I refused the neulasta after the first one, for me that was harder than the chemo drug. If you don't want to take something make sure you speak up and if you do get sick let them know. You tend to get the boring cheap drugs unless you ask for the good stuff :) Read that as maxalon vs ondansetron for nausea.
I had only minor SE's from paclitaxel. No steroids and no anti nausea needed with that.
Fingers crossed things run smoothly for you
xoxo - ChezaHMemberI didn't have any issues with the steroids with AC but it knocked me to the wall and only had 3 treatments as too ill, but with Paclitaxel I had more but I can cope with this for one night. See what the next chemo sessions on Wednesday brings xx
- Fern88MemberHi @Cath62
I wish you all the best with the start of your chemo cycle. I haven't suffered from vomiting or nausea (3 out of 4 AC so far) but struggled with sleeping & constipation (250ml of prune juice daily is my trick) and by day 4 after chemo I seem to sleep better I think by then all the steriods have worn off.
xo - AfraserMemberDear @Cath62
See how you go on A/C - I had the obligatory anti-nausea drugs with each A/C treatment but didn’t take anything else in between as I never felt sick. As a result, my oncologist was happy to leave the steroids out with weekly Taxol, on the strict understanding of no complaints if I got sick (he would of course have reintroduced the steroids!). I was fine. Anti-nausea meds are essential for some, but not all. No idea why. Best wishes. - Cath62MemberThanks so much for writing these tips. I start chemo on Thursday 4th June. I think I will talk to the oncologist re steroids and the .dose. She told me is what to stop vomiting and nausea but I really don't like the idea of the steroids and the side effects. Having 3 rounds AC and 10 taxol.
- ChezaHMemberTinks said:@Carrie2020, I’m just finishing rads. I used MooGoo skin milk moisturiser right through esp for rads if you search for it here you will find the threads. It has certainly supported my skin really well, and soaks in fast. You can order online or at large chemists. Very fast delivery. Also look at their oncology pack, best value. Has a deodorant suitable for radiotherapy, and also a skin wash.
I also used up good quality face stuff that I know suited me, same for natural skin products for hands and feet. Mainly my experience was everything becomes very dry, the skin very thin and tight and tending to be flaky, so I needed to use a lot of everything I had!As I had a very close trim on my hair, virtually a shave, I did not need a lot of shampoo, mainly needed to keep the Scalp moisturised as above. Occasionally I use a mild sulphate free and paraben free shampoo. A friend gave me nice one called Watermans, which is also thought to help scalp. I think any good quality sulphate, paraben and other nasty chemical free product is a good bet.All the best for your treatment, lots of love Tinks xx
Thanks Tinks for al your information it really helps, Hugs xx - TinksMember@Carrie2020, I’m just finishing rads. I used MooGoo skin milk moisturiser right through esp for rads if you search for it here you will find the threads. It has certainly supported my skin really well, and soaks in fast. You can order online or at large chemists. Very fast delivery. Also look at their oncology pack, best value. Has a deodorant suitable for radiotherapy, and also a skin wash.
I also used up good quality face stuff that I know suited me, same for natural skin products for hands and feet. Mainly my experience was everything becomes very dry, the skin very thin and tight and tending to be flaky, so I needed to use a lot of everything I had!As I had a very close trim on my hair, virtually a shave, I did not need a lot of shampoo, mainly needed to keep the Scalp moisturised as above. Occasionally I use a mild sulphate free and paraben free shampoo. A friend gave me nice one called Watermans, which is also thought to help scalp. I think any good quality sulphate, paraben and other nasty chemical free product is a good bet.All the best for your treatment, lots of love Tinks xx