Drug holiday over, today I started taking Letrozole again. At night this time. Don't know that it will make any difference but worth a try.If/when (she said optimistically) the side effects return, I'll start my curcumin trial.It's been really really good to be pain (and dandruff) free for a few weeks. I feel it's given me a boost, and more strength to continue.If the side effects don't settle down my oncologist was quite keen to put me onto Tamoxifen. From what I've read here I'm not so sure. Better the devil you know...?

Okay...had my appointment with the onc yesterday. He was running late and called me to his office and went back inside. I struggled to get up after sitting for so long and eventually managed to hobble into his office where he'd obviously been standing waiting for me. His smile turned to concern and he asked me if I had hurt myself to which my response was "Letrozole" which started the discussion of what he termed frustrating side effects. He agrees that the effect is not acceptable because it will either make the treatment unsustainable due to the misery of constant pain or lead to other detrimental effects on my health as it is limiting activity. He did say that I could have a short break but I would prefer to keep that as a next level option given that it's still early days and my cancer developed so quickly and he's happy that I feel that way. I'm guessing that many women are keen to stop the medication, understandably. He did also say that inflammation of the joints is going to cause problems with the soft tissue surrounding them.So, my immediate course of action is a week's worth of prednisolone and see if that helps as I'm unable to take any of the anti-inflammatory pain-killers. I'm also going to have some blood tests to check for any auto-immune arthritis that, although not caused by treatment, could have been brought on by the trauma of treatment. But this is more of a ruling out as he's pretty sure that the arthritis appearing in my hands is Letrozole related.Another possible course of action down the track is changing the hormone therapy drug. I go back to see him in 6 weeks if the prednisolone doesn't help. If it does, then I don't see him for 3 months. All in all, I feel pretty positive about the response. While he's not promising any magic solutions, he's listened to me and not dismissed my concerns. I have some hope that I may get some normal movement back.

Well tonight my left big toe joint is throbbing with pain that is making me wince and draw breath. Fuck it!I saw my psych today. Amongst other things we discussed acceptance, and understanding the trade off that taking the AI has engendered. I explained that while intellectually I completely understood and was willing to put up with an array of difficult side effects for the possibility of a longer life, emotionally I was drumming my feet into the floor screaming "it's not fair". Of course it's not fair, nothing is and I'd rather be having my current difficulties than be more seriously ill. Nonetheless, it's a difficult adjustment and it's taking time for my emotions to catch up with my rational brain.The psych also spoke of the importance of giving space for anger to come out (in a non-destructive way).Sometimes I feel I just want a big 'We understand that even though you're 'better' you're suffering in order to stay that way, you poor brave thing', which is bloody ridiculous because most people are suffering in one way or another and that kind of validation belongs in romantic novels, not real life. Which is why this forum is ace because we all get it here, which provides us with that acknowledgement and validation.You all make this a much less lonely experience. Me and my aching big toe thank you. K xox

@Josephine66 if you reach the end of your tether with letrozole, ask about Aromasin. It's subtly different and my oncologist said it was not his 'first choice' for me, but the other two drugs made my life unbearable. I'm coping a bit better with this AI but I am far from 'normal'. And no, I'm not accepting this a new normal, I'm just not.I too had an AI holiday a couple months ago and was shocked at the impact the drugs were having, thus my discussion about stopping, thus the Aromasin as a last resortA two time winner of the booby prize, I'd have to reach rock bottom to justify ditching what is, for me, the best chance of buying some time. I've been close and may get there again, but at least for the moment I can work, sort of think, and do some of the physical stuff I used to be able to do easily. Yesterday I spent five hours climbing up and down a ladder putting a roof on a carport. Three months ago I was in tears at the thought of that job (which was why it was not done) so I guess there has been an improvement, incremental as it may be. Mind you, I'm stuffed now, still in bed and waiting for the local massage joint to open so I can crawl down there and get someone to try to ease the foot/leg/shoulder/foob situation. Mxx

@Sister @Flaneuse @kmakm u poor things. I get a little joint pain on my drugs. Normally when I first wake up my knuckles are sore so I have to flex them a few times and it takes a minute or so for my joints to loosen up. I have nothing like the terrible pain and debilitation u all have though. I can completely understand feeling like giving it up. Such a tough thing that what is prolonging lives also causes such a downgrade in the quality of it. I struggle a little emotionally like u Kate - I understand logically that the treatment I have had and the medication are necessary evils and I would much rather above ground than below it but sometimes I yearn for the days when I could wear a lower cut dress or top, it didn’t take me ages to for a particular word to come to mind (I have had to resort to googling sometimes) and the fact that some muscles just feel like they will never recover and get their strength back. Very minor things compared to what some people are doing through I know. Big hugs ladies.

No worries! Personally I have butter over margarine and I prefer full fat to low fat products! It is about our own taste buds and choices and for me I have always had a good cholesterol reading along with my other levels. I was unlucky enough that a side effect of Letrozole was a high level of cholesterol. Now I am not back to the 3 that I was years ago but a 5 which is within the Heart Foundation health guidelines.When I was diagnosed I found myself having a heightened awareness of my health and all the variables that go with it. Just this week I have had a multitude of tests including an ECG and I am pleased to know that everything is ticking along as it should.

After a break, Letrozole, continued...

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Kiwi_Angel
Member
7 years ago
@kezmusc I’m feeling sick today - maybe a dose of drugs is what I need :D. I think mine are definitely slowly getting better - I don’t really have too many during the day mainly the stupid night ones - why at night!!!!!????
kezmusc
Member
7 years ago
Morning all,

Just trying to catch up with a few threads. I haven't read all of it so may be repeating things that have already been said.
Re the tamoxifen and flushes @"Kiwi Angel" @kmakm @JJ70 my last break from it appears to have almost knocked out the flushes. Only 5 or 6 a day now and very minor (under a minute) compared to what they were. They have gotten better each time so there is hope that they don't stay the distance of the HT.
Interesting side note. I got a cold which turned into a chest infection and needed antibiotices. No flushes at all for the 5 days on the drugs which I thought was odd but excellent. Weird huh?
xoxox
iserbrown
Member
7 years ago
Oh maybe spin it into "is Anastrozole
Is one to research and ask about at next visit."
Luckily you picked up on the boo boo! Sometimes too much of a hurry.
kmakm
Member
7 years ago
@Sister Exactly!

@Flaneuse @arpie @"Kiwi Angel" Yes!

@AllyJay My pharmacy changed hands recently. I've been going there for 19 years and am loathe to change. But it's potentially so dangerous as you say... I'll give them one more chance.
AllyJay
Member
7 years ago
Once I took scripts for both my husband and I into one of the local chemists. After arriving home, I found that one of his heart medications had my label on, with the instructions regarding dosage. Another box had my sticker on along with the dosage. (Mine was the Letrozole, labelled for him. Imagine if we were two old farts...(well we are two old farts actually), who both were not quite as sharp as we should have been... Needless, after fixing up the stuff up, I changed pharmacies.
Sister
Member
7 years ago
You could easily have thought, different brand, different colour.
Flaneuse
Member
7 years ago
@kmakm Faaark! That's BAD.
arpie
Member
7 years ago
OMG! That's not good @kmakm .... understandable if it was the ''other version'' - not a totally different med tho!! Not good at ALL
Kiwi_Angel
Member
7 years ago
Oh dear!!
kmakm
Member
7 years ago
Oops! Went to the pharmacy to collect the next month's life saving/sucking box of Letrozole. Got home. Opened box to put one tray in my pill box (a vintage Indian tin - it's the small pleasures) and saw that they were white instead of brown. That's odd I thought. Checked box. Anastrozole! Back to the pharmacy I went. The chemist was so embarrassed he blushed. And he wasn't even the one who dispensed them! Said he was going to leave a note for the one who did...

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