When can I start eating salads, soft cheese and the like?
I was diagnosed with breast cancer in February this year, surgery in March (lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy), more surgery in April (axillary clearance - 32 nodes in total), chemo started beginning of May and finished 3.5 weeks ago. Radiation started last week and will finish mid December. I’m so looking forward to having salad including Camembert. When can I start eating these types of food again? Thank you
@ilovewhenitrains, yes, that was the advice I was given.
@Afraser, it’s like the advice given to pregnant ppl now. As @ilovewhenitrains says the advice for chemo recipients is similar to the advice given for pregnancies but when I had my kids I wasn’t told not to eat certain foods because of listeria etc
I had a nurse review yesterday about my radiation treatment so I asked her the questions. The nurses at the clinic I’m going to alternate between chemo and radiation. So I can eat what I like now that I am one month post chemo but still need to be careful with preparation of food because the immune system still isn’t great (that applies at all times though).
Part of the puzzle about what you are told or not told is time. My diagnosis was ten years ago, and I certainly wasn’t advised about listeria. Possibly because it wasn’t so well understood generally. And of course chemo affects different people very differently. Explanations about why something is recommended clarifies everything and need to be provided along with instructions.
I have actually just been discussing this with my nurse.
foods like deli meats, soft cheese, raw seafood (oysters, salmon, etc), sushi, unwashed fruits and vegetables, just to name a few, can carry listeria bacteria.
since chemo can lower your neutrophils, having these foods can cause you to become really sick since you can’t fight off the infection like someone with a “normal” immune system can. It’s similar to the advice given to pregnant women to avoid these types of foods.
Great that you are nearly finished with your active treatment @Bluehibiscus xx. I found the radiation to be the easiest of my treatments & luckily I didn't get any serious burns. Just keep your moisturisers up to the area being treated xx
I even gave myself a holiday at the end of my active treatment as my 'reward' - a week at Norfolk Island with a bunch of friends!
@arpie Thank you. I finished chemo nearly 4 weeks ago and started radiation last week (day 3 today) 😁.
@@Keeping_positive1, thanks. I was told the same about losing/gaining weight. I did lose weight quickly over a short period when everything smelled and tasted horrible and I found it difficult to eat anything but once the “smell” settled I managed to keep my weight stable. At least some foods are starting to taste nearly “normal” ☺️
@Bluehibiscus I never received a sheet stating which foods not to eat, so it must be a new thing. I distinctly remember them saying we don't want you to lose much weight, nor gain much. @Afraser my tastebuds were not the same, but it didn't stop me eating, I stopped short of eating a horse though :)
My weight stayed stable, but I did lose some from diagnosis to surgery which was 2 months (so long), probably just dropped off me from the anxiety I was under at the time. Well, I am here and fighting fit 6 years on from diagnosis. Each day is a blessing and of course some side effects, but I am allowed to grumble a bit about them in likeminded company who totally understand what I have been through.
@Bluehibiscus I hope moving forward you are able to get back to eating what you truly enjoy. xx
We were told similar when my husband was going thru chemo - it related more to infection control than anything else, as getting infections whilst having chemo can be really nasty, even lethal, if not treated quickly. eg salmonella poisoning, clostridium botulinum (found in soil & on plants) and clostridium difficile (a gut bug) in particular - either from food or other sources. Ordinary antibiotics often don't fix them - they need a special antibiotic regime to get rid of them, so need stool samples sent to identify the particular bug & which treatment is needed.
We were advised not to eat any undercooked food (fish or chicken in particular) or 'raw cheeses' like some of the soft cheeses .... and to make sure all veg were either peeled or washed well, to avoid bacteria entering his system & making him ill whilst his resistance was low. Sadly, he did have one nasty infection & ended up in hospital. :(
The spicy food gave you some hassles, so wisely, you've taken them off the menu for the time being ;) But you'll be able to reintroduce them once you've finished your chemo - it may just take time to build up to the 'strength' you used to enjoy.
If you start getting the Trots or develop a temperature, get checked out asap - tho most gastrostop or similar meds should fix the Trots ..... you don't want a midnight flit to the Emergency Dept!!
take care & all the best for your ongoing treatments xx
@Keeping_positive1 this is part of a handout sheet I got
People receiving or have recently finished cancer treatment should avoid some foods entirely. These include cold hot dogs or deli lunch meat (cold cuts) including salami, soft cheeses such as blue-veined, Brie, Camembert, feta, and goat cheese. There’s a lot more foods listed.
@Afraser, I thought I would be fine with spicy food which I love, so had a mild spicy vegetarian dish for dinner one night. I could feel it burning my mouth and next day started developing mouth ulcers. I bought something from the chemist which cleared them within a few days so no more spicy foods for me after that experience. I’ve started trying some mildly spicy things in the last two weeks and they haven’t caused any problems (but still taste spicier than they should) 😛
Fascinating! Spicy foods are often recommended for people like me who lost most of their sense of taste on chemo - it didn’t work, couldn’t taste that either! Clearly listeria or salmonella concerns, some of those foods are not recommended in pregnancy either. But like @Keeping_positive1 I wasn’t given any food advice at all, other than to eat as well as possible.
I was never told to avoid eating any certain food groups, nor not to eat raw fruit or veg that wasn't cooked or peeled. That seems strange to me that you were told that, unless of course you have comorbidities that are of concern. I had a full one hour (one on one) with an oncology nurse who gave me a rundown of what to avoid, it was called an education session on do and don't whilst on chemotherapy. It sounds like they are talking about listeria concerns. As long as everything is washed and no cross contamination is wise whether going through cancer treatment or not.
@Bluehibiscus can I ask who gave you the advice not to eat soft cheese? Take care and best wishes. xx