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Thanks","kudosSumWeight":3,"postTime":"2019-07-06T19:53:39.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:chemotherapy","text":"chemotherapy","time":"2025-03-25T05:01:41.190-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}},{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDI","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:cold-caps","text":"cold-caps","time":"2025-03-25T05:02:39.638-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:141740_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1562},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Hi everyone, I was diagnosed with Her2 positive BC in April. I have been having AC dose dense chemo for the past six weeks (3 x 2 weeks) and have my last one on Thursday. I've tolerated it well which I credit partly to walking every day, between 30-40km a week. I start Paclitaxel chemo 12 x weekly two weeks later and I have been reading about Taxol based chemos being very likely to cause neuropathy. I'm keen to do as much as I can to avoid this. Online there are some new studies showing cold gloves and booties reduce these effects. I can see that it is commonly discussed on the UK forums. Has anyone used cold therapy while having chemo? I know that there is much discussion and use of cold capping but I can't see anything on the forums about using it to prevent neuropathy. (I considered cold capping but was told by my oncologist it didn't work well with AC.) The gloves and ice packs that are recommended (Elastogel, Chillpain) all seem to be made and sold in the US and not here, and they cost so much after the exchange rate, taxes and postage. I was wondering if there were any local alternatives people knew about, or if they had made their own alternatives, frozen peas, ice trays or ice packs? Thanks"},"Conversation:conversation:141740":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:141740","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:141740"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2021-01-10T20:40:19.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2021-01-10T20:40:19.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":82,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:141740":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:141740","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:141740_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:141740_1","lastEditTime":"2019-07-06T19:53:39.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:141820":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:141820","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:141740"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:22650"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":141820,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:chemotherapy-and-radiotherapy"},"subject":"Re: Anyone tried Cold Therapy to prevent neuropathy in Taxol Chemo","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:141820"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:141740"},"body":"Hi, I did try icing for a fair amount of the 12 taxol sessions. I had to stop on my feet as my big toe nails lifted. My hands I was able to do for most of the sessions. I have a little pins and needles in my nails now I have finished and some in my toes. I can only imagine this would have been 10 times worse for me if I didnt do the ice therapy. I got the jugs from the $2 shop and was gifted the socks and ice packs. I returned the socks and icepacks when I had finished with them. The staff were very helpful in getting my ice. I have attached not a very glamorous photo.","body@stringLength":"990","rawBody":"Hi, I did try icing for a fair amount of the 12 taxol sessions. I had to stop on my feet as my big toe nails lifted. My hands I was able to do for most of the sessions. I have a little pins and needles in my nails now I have finished and some in my toes. I can only imagine this would have been 10 times worse for me if I didnt do the ice therapy. I got the jugs from the $2 shop and was gifted the socks and ice packs. I returned the socks and icepacks when I had finished with them. The staff were very helpful in getting my ice. 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Like you I had heard about the Taxol / neuropathy link and thought I'd research it and try anything as my sister ended up with it in her feet after bc treatment. I didn't need A/C only Taxol and Herceptin , at Peter Mac Melbourne. I looked for gloves online but they were sold out so I just made do with the the ice from Peter Mac's ice machines in their kitchens on the chemo ward. The staff were very helpful and some slightly amused but they let me try it. I have no neuropathy and didn't experience any nail loss only a tiny bit of tingling in one little finger. My nails were weakened but 2 years later are as strong as ever. I bought a new round cake container from the Reject shop to fit my size 7 feet (tied up in plastic bags) and rested it on a small lunch esky (my legs wouldn't have reached the container otherwise !) where I housed some ice packs in case the machines broke down. It did happen on my very last session and my helper went down to the next floor with a nurse and got some ice from there for me as I was determined to finish it off with the ice! For my hands I used the hospital's sterile gloves and a wide mixing bowl from home. I had someone to help at each session and started the ice plunge as soon as the line went in. It was cold and tough for about the first 15 minutes and then it eased off. I was as committed as the cold cap ladies are and determined to give it a go. My helper would chat to me and get me a warm drink once I'd finished . I just wish I took some photos but that was the last thing on my mind at the time. The only other thing to note is the vein access. I had a good vein in the crease of my elbow which was used frequently and held up well, but some chemo nurses prefer the ones in the hand or the wrist . I would just explain what I was up to and they'd try further up. Good luck with your next lot of treatment. It all seems like a bad dream now for me , I can't believe I got through it , and you will too . All the best, J x","body@stringLength":"2101","rawBody":"Hi @shs14. Like you I had heard about the Taxol / neuropathy link and thought I'd research it and try anything as my sister ended up with it in her feet after bc treatment. I didn't need A/C only Taxol and Herceptin , at Peter Mac Melbourne. I looked for gloves online but they were sold out so I just made do with the the ice from Peter Mac's ice machines in their kitchens on the chemo ward. The staff were very helpful and some slightly amused but they let me try it. I have no neuropathy and didn't experience any nail loss only a tiny bit of tingling in one little finger. My nails were weakened but 2 years later are as strong as ever. I bought a new round cake container from the Reject shop to fit my size 7 feet (tied up in plastic bags) and rested it on a small lunch esky (my legs wouldn't have reached the container otherwise !) where I housed some ice packs in case the machines broke down. It did happen on my very last session and my helper went down to the next floor with a nurse and got some ice from there for me as I was determined to finish it off with the ice! For my hands I used the hospital's sterile gloves and a wide mixing bowl from home. I had someone to help at each session and started the ice plunge as soon as the line went in. It was cold and tough for about the first 15 minutes and then it eased off. I was as committed as the cold cap ladies are and determined to give it a go. My helper would chat to me and get me a warm drink once I'd finished . I just wish I took some photos but that was the last thing on my mind at the time. The only other thing to note is the vein access. I had a good vein in the crease of my elbow which was used frequently and held up well, but some chemo nurses prefer the ones in the hand or the wrist . I would just explain what I was up to and they'd try further up. Good luck with your next lot of treatment. It all seems like a bad dream now for me , I can't believe I got through it , and you will too . All the best, J 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