I have been on tamoxifen for just over 12 months now. All the side effects I experienced initially seem to have settled except fatigue off and on. I experienced the side effects for a few months. Fingers crossed it settles for you too.
I had the choice of tamoxifen or other AIs but tamoxifen had less joint pain associated with it so hence my choice with tamoxifen. I didn't want the joint pain because I love walking.
You can always discuss with your oncologist or breast care nurse if it all gets too much. Best wishes š","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207660"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"Cath62"},"postTime":"2021-11-07T23:14:09.000-08:00","kudosSumWeight":2}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXwz","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":207669,"body":"@arpie just wanted to mention while tamoxifen is usually given to women who are pre menopause, it is also given to women who are post menopause too, if just depends on one's pathology and other medical conditions they have.
For me I was post menopause but had other conditions with joints (some arthritis) so this was a best option so not to increase any joint issues for me. Tamoxifen doesn't cause the same joint pain as the other AIs are known for. ","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207660"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"Cath62"},"postTime":"2021-11-08T21:36:56.000-08:00","kudosSumWeight":2}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXw0","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":207673,"body":"@Nina75 I spent about 2-3 months waking up every morning convinced Iād just had a nightmare. Then realising it was true and wishing it had been a nightmare. And one of the hardest things about all this is exactly that: the realisation that weāre alone. No matter how much wonderful support you have, YOU are the one having to go through the rigmarole. When we enter the theatre, we go alone. The radiation room, alone. The chemo chair, alone. When I say alone, I mean weāre the ones all this is being done to. And thatās when we realise we really are alone in this world. Anything that happens to us in life, happens to US. Our friends and family can be there for support, but no one feels it like we do. I think this was one of the hardest parts of this breast ca diagnosis for me. It does take time to process, but once you do it makes a world of difference. Dealing with the psychological aspect of this diagnosis has helped me find myself, and now I donāt feel alone anymore. I could be by myself for days, and I wouldnāt feel alone. I also trust my body. I know I have my own back. Everyone else is a bonus.
Almost two years later, Iām pretty much over it and feeling a million times better. However, when I visit places that remind me of that time right after diagnosis, I still feel like crying because Iām reminded of how alone I felt, and that was the worst part. I guess healing really does take time and patience. Youāll get there ā„ļø.
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!!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:207678_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:23130":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:23130","uid":23130,"login":"Kabee","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2021-03-23T07:11:39.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/t5/s/nkyiu94732/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:23130"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207677":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207677","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207677":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:23130"},"id":"message:207677","revisionNum":1,"uid":207677,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:207660"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207660"},"subject":"Re: Advice for aching wrists, joints","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207677"},"body":"Hi @Nina75. I know youāve only been on the meds a mth but it might be worth looking into a different brand of the tamoxifen down the track to see if that helps.
Iām on my 4th mth of a different med but the first 3 mths I had 3 different brands due to supply issues in my area (not helpful when I wanted to monitor side affects) The first brand seemed to alleviate most of the joint pain I had from the Zoladex injections, possibly a coincidence but I was happy to feel better than I had before. The second wasnāt too bad either.
But the third brand was horrific! I was in absolute agony with my hand and wrist on my BC side. Iād wake up in the mornings and couldnāt close my fist. Iād have to open and close my hand till I could make a fist. I could barely hold my bedroom door handle to open the door. My wrist during the day felt fractured and my fingers felt broken. I couldnāt lift my kettle at home or work. I could only just hold my coffee cup with the support of my other hand and could barely hold a pen unless it was on an awkward angle and half hanging off my desk. And I was waking multiple times during the night with severe hand and wrist pain.
When I had to fill my script this mth I told them I couldnāt have that brand again and luckily they had one of the other ones in stock. Iāve only been off the horrible brand a week but I already feel like my hand is brand new again. My hand is slightly stiff in the morning but I think this is my new normal since chemo, Zoladex and being put into early menopause. I can now hold my kettle, confidently hold my coffe cup with one hand and I can hold my pen now too.
Maybe a different brand of tamoxifen might help with your aches and pains. All the best with it š
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Iām on my 4th mth of a different med but the first 3 mths I had 3 different brands due to supply issues in my area (not helpful when I wanted to monitor side affects) The first brand seemed to alleviate most of the joint pain I had from the Zoladex injections, possibly a coincidence but I was happy to feel better than I had before. The second wasnāt too bad either.
But the third brand was horrific! I was in absolute agony with my hand and wrist on my BC side. Iād wake up in the mornings and couldnāt close my fist. Iād have to open and close my hand till I could make a fist. I could barely hold my bedroom door handle to open the door. My wrist during the day felt fractured and my fingers felt broken. I couldnāt lift my kettle at home or work. I could only just hold my coffee cup with the support of my other hand and could barely hold a pen unless it was on an awkward angle and half hanging off my desk. And I was waking multiple times during the night with severe hand and wrist pain.
When I had to fill my script this mth I told them I couldnāt have that brand again and luckily they had one of the other ones in stock. Iāve only been off the horrible brand a week but I already feel like my hand is brand new again. My hand is slightly stiff in the morning but I think this is my new normal since chemo, Zoladex and being put into early menopause. I can now hold my kettle, confidently hold my coffe cup with one hand and I can hold my pen now too.
Maybe a different brand of tamoxifen might help with your aches and pains. All the best with it š
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Iāve just started my 4th mth of Exemestane. The first 3 mths I had three different brands due to supply issues (not ideal when you want to try and keep an eye on side affects)
The first brand seemed to alleviate some of the joint pain I had from the Zoladex injections, possibly a coincidence but I was happy it subsided. Second brand was about the same.
The third brand was horrific! I had really bad pain in my fingers and wrist. Each morning I could barely close my fist. I had to open and close my hand until I could keep my fist closed. During the day my wrist felt fractured and fingers felt broken. I couldnāt pick up the kettle at home or work. I could barely lift my coffee cup without support from my other hand and I couldnāt grip a pen properly unless I held it on a weird angle and half off my desk.
When I had to fill my script for this mth I told them I couldnāt take the previous brand due to the horrific pain, luckily they had a different brand. Iāve been on this one for a week now and my hand and wrist feels almost brand new again. I still have some slight stiffness in my hand when I wake up but this is my new normal (I had this even before I started the meds) which I put down to chemo, nodes removal and being thrown into early menopause. I can now hold the kettle, confidently hold my coffee cup and can hold a pen properly.
Maybe a different brand will work for you too. As the lovely ladies on here have said previously, sometimes itās just a matter of tweaking things and trying different brands and medications. Hope your pain subsides soon :-)
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Iāve just started my 4th mth of Exemestane. The first 3 mths I had three different brands due to supply issues (not ideal when you want to try and keep an eye on side affects)
The first brand seemed to alleviate some of the joint pain I had from the Zoladex injections, possibly a coincidence but I was happy it subsided. Second brand was about the same.
The third brand was horrific! I had really bad pain in my fingers and wrist. Each morning I could barely close my fist. I had to open and close my hand until I could keep my fist closed. During the day my wrist felt fractured and fingers felt broken. I couldnāt pick up the kettle at home or work. I could barely lift my coffee cup without support from my other hand and I couldnāt grip a pen properly unless I held it on a weird angle and half off my desk.
When I had to fill my script for this mth I told them I couldnāt take the previous brand due to the horrific pain, luckily they had a different brand. Iāve been on this one for a week now and my hand and wrist feels almost brand new again. I still have some slight stiffness in my hand when I wake up but this is my new normal (I had this even before I started the meds) which I put down to chemo, nodes removal and being thrown into early menopause. I can now hold the kettle, confidently hold my coffee cup and can hold a pen properly.
Maybe a different brand will work for you too. As the lovely ladies on here have said previously, sometimes itās just a matter of tweaking things and trying different brands and medications. Hope your pain subsides soon :-)
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I had a bit of joint pain early on but it settled down.I have been in it now for 11 months. That may be what happens to you with this drug, I read a lot about side effects of all the AI drugs and tamoxifen before I started the Letrazole and this can happen. I found acupuncture helped too but doesnāt work for all. Exercise is important but it is hard if your joints hurt- swimming is great if you have access to it. Many other ladies on here have gone through it and will have helpful advice. Wishing you all the best.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-11-10T13:05:56.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-11-10T13:05:56.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:social-zone/community:nkyiu94732board:general/message:207660/message:207675","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"605","rawBody":"Hi I was not put on tamoxifen but on Letrazole.I am 63. I had a bit of joint pain early on but it settled down.I have been in it now for 11 months. That may be what happens to you with this drug, I read a lot about side effects of all the AI drugs and tamoxifen before I started the Letrazole and this can happen. I found acupuncture helped too but doesnāt work for all. Exercise is important but it is hard if your joints hurt- swimming is great if you have access to it. Many other ladies on here have gone through it and will have helpful advice. Wishing you all the best.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:207675_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207674":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207674","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207674":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:23479"},"id":"message:207674","revisionNum":1,"uid":207674,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:207660"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207660"},"subject":"Re: Advice for aching wrists, joints","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207674"},"body":"Thank you @ four leaf cloverā¦. Such a reassuring message!!!!!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"61","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-11-10T06:35:23.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-11-10T06:35:23.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:social-zone/community:nkyiu94732board:general/message:207660/message:207674","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"61","rawBody":"Thank you @ four leaf cloverā¦. Such a reassuring message!!!!!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:207674_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:22664":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:22664","uid":22664,"login":"FLClover","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2020-04-24T18:52:46.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/legacyfs/online/userpics/R8SGRHCT6997/pNWX7U3FFSVM4.jpeg"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:22664"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:207673":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:207673","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:207673":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:22664"},"id":"message:207673","revisionNum":1,"uid":207673,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:207660"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:207660"},"subject":"Re: Advice for aching wrists, joints","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:207673"},"body":"@Nina75 I spent about 2-3 months waking up every morning convinced Iād just had a nightmare. Then realising it was true and wishing it had been a nightmare. And one of the hardest things about all this is exactly that: the realisation that weāre alone. No matter how much wonderful support you have, YOU are the one having to go through the rigmarole. When we enter the theatre, we go alone. The radiation room, alone. The chemo chair, alone. When I say alone, I mean weāre the ones all this is being done to. And thatās when we realise we really are alone in this world. Anything that happens to us in life, happens to US. Our friends and family can be there for support, but no one feels it like we do. I think this was one of the hardest parts of this breast ca diagnosis for me. It does take time to process, but once you do it makes a world of difference. Dealing with the psychological aspect of this diagnosis has helped me find myself, and now I donāt feel alone anymore. I could be by myself for days, and I wouldnāt feel alone. I also trust my body. I know I have my own back. Everyone else is a bonus.
Almost two years later, Iām pretty much over it and feeling a million times better. However, when I visit places that remind me of that time right after diagnosis, I still feel like crying because Iām reminded of how alone I felt, and that was the worst part. I guess healing really does take time and patience. Youāll get there ā„ļø.
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Almost two years later, Iām pretty much over it and feeling a million times better. However, when I visit places that remind me of that time right after diagnosis, I still feel like crying because Iām reminded of how alone I felt, and that was the worst part. I guess healing really does take time and patience. Youāll get there ā„ļø.
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