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Exercise / Healthy Diet after BC
Hello all, I have been on the site more lately, you all help when things get you down. Just read Stop the Bullshit and it made me put this in writing. We all have been told (a lot) that studies show exercise and healthy diet after diog can lessen chance of reoccurrence... I say If we got the cancer in the first place while we were exercising and leading a healthy lifestyle WHY?? And what about all of us who struggle with living healthily as a result of the treatment undergone.. are we courting a reoccurrence??
I was shocked while I was having treatment, I talked to many of the ladies in the chemo ward over the 16months , many of them led very healthy lifestyles, far too many of them were way too young (Iexpected a lot of older ladies) and when you added up how busy that ward was, it really hit home the sheer numbers of people with cancers of all sorts.
I was shocked while I was having treatment, I talked to many of the ladies in the chemo ward over the 16months , many of them led very healthy lifestyles, far too many of them were way too young (Iexpected a lot of older ladies) and when you added up how busy that ward was, it really hit home the sheer numbers of people with cancers of all sorts.
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- Thanks @Cosette_BCNA for the article. But I say...for really true stats on familial genetic cancers they need to start doing dna testing on all women diagnosed..bet they'd find new abnormal significant genes then.
- Thanks Cosette!
I do believe in Karma LOL but Cancer doesnt have anything to do with that...and karma is different it comes around in different and unexpected ways.
I too was at a very stressful time in my life when I had my first diagnosis...my Mum had passed suddenly, I lost my Marriage, I sold my home, and had to move my 2 kids and myself and work full time. Lots happening and then bam!! Though 2015 life was pretty good, not stressful or things going on...so there you go.
What I have learnt in 6 years though is this, for me its partly about self awareness and self nurture. Things there are just not time for and I realised as in 2011 and 2015 I still hadnt learnt that lesson for myself. So for me it wasnt about diet or exercise, but more about nurturing, putting me above everyone else for the first time in my life even when I felt I shouldnt and couldnt....I did. I learnt I was important I take time for me...big lesson for me...so everyones different. BUT NOBODY does anything to bring it on themselves. x
Oh I don't believe in karma because lots of evil people out there are living a good health! But I do believe you do reap what you sow at some point on your life journey, is that karma? Haha...Cosette_BCNA said:Hi everyone. This article was shared with me and I thought you would find it interesting.
'Bad luck' mutations increase cancer risk more than behavior, study says
When I first read the comments in this discussion, I was reminded of Hong's story where she said that Vietnamese women often think people get breast cancer because of karma. This can lead to stigma and being ostracized. I thought that was very sad. People don't do anything or not do something to get cancer. It's mostly just bad luck.
It's so sad that it's just luck. I don't wish to believe that. I want to believe there is a reason why things happen the way it did. I really do feel that stress plus a lot of factors last year caused things to go wrong for me as it was the most difficult year I ever had. But well, I also shouldn't ask too much it's no point, it's good I am making positive changes in my life, that's truly what matters.
And for me, I want to say without God, I wouldn't be able to go through all this. I will probably go into melt-downs each day get into some mental institution or die of cancer (which I never want to!!!) So I am just going to keep trusting Him for my health with all the positive changes I am making. xxx- Hi everyone. This article was shared with me and I thought you would find it interesting.
'Bad luck' mutations increase cancer risk more than behavior, study says
When I first read the comments in this discussion, I was reminded of Hong's story where she said that Vietnamese women often think people get breast cancer because of karma. This can lead to stigma and being ostracized. I thought that was very sad. People don't do anything or not do something to get cancer. It's mostly just bad luck.
You are so brave. I do believe our immune system is such so amazing until something goes wrong. It's much like garden soil. I remember a lesson learnt a few years ago while I was into gardening. When the soil in the patch was so good, the vegetables grew so well and no bugs came to attack them. I was so amazed that i needed no extra protection like net:pensive: or sprays and need not be diagnosing diseases among the veges. But there were many times when the soil somewhere else in the garden were not good and plants grew and full of insect attacks and they grew poorly. Sorry for the gardening rant :PZoffiel said:Both my BCs have come to the surface after times of intense stress. There were ten years between them, which tells me that the disease never went away but my immune system was able to cope with it. Until things went wrong.
I wasn't surprised when I was first diagnosed. I wasn't surprised when it came back. I was, and still am, a drinking, smoking rooting, tooting piece of work. On occasions I'm a great big fat example of bad health. Sometimes I'm an unstoppable exercise junky who does wicked things when there is wine, food and drugs around. Phfft. Does it really matter? Sort of like pranging the car then having buyer remorse because you bought the wrong model.
Rear view mirrors are useful until you hit something you didn't look for. Then it's too late.
Who knows? Don't do that anymore lol. I am pretty careful with my mobile only place i tucked it is my bum pocket. But I still got it. xxSoldier Crab said:I feel guilty that I always had my mobile phone tucked into my bra exactly where my lumps were! Did that cause it.... ?
Oh hun, I am skinny lol hope that gives you some comfort. It's not fat or skinny. I do not have family history either. I really do think lifestyle and stress are big causes to spark off some craziness in our body. I had mastitis and now i can't even remember if it's right or left breast but I think it's the same breast that had cancer. Now my mindset is all changed and I will do anything to reduce stress in my life mentally or physically. Not easy with young kids but I have to constantly remind myself to be thankful that I can be a mum!!! Yes i have seen women who are vegans and who exercise a lot get BC too. I hear that over exercise can cause BC too go figure! At least we do not get prostate issues! xxKarenhappyquilter said:I was and am overweight and had a very stressful time with my father maybe eighteen months or so before I was diagnosed. At diagnosis I was very happily retired enjoying my life with my husband, family, friends, dogs and my quilting. I have wondered whether the extreme stress with my father contributed to my cancer, or was it simply my fault for being overweight or just bad luck. I had mastitis with my first baby. I didn't take the pill for long and never took HRT. A light drinker most of my life. An intermittent excerciser. I had a benign lump removed from the same breast that got cancer many years ago. It was always a lumpy breast. I used to check the lumps there but ridiculously didn't find the lump of my cancer, now wish I had found it earlier. Thank goodness for Breast Screen Australia and regular mammograms. No family history of BC. I feel guilty about my weight. What overweight person doesn't? But thin fit healthy eating women can get BC and all the overweight women out there don't all get it, just some of us. I don't suppose I will ever know why I got it. I will die a long time in the future I hope without medical science solving that conundrum. My oncologist said, the main causes of BC are being a woman and age. I am glad he did not lecture me on my weight.- I was and am overweight and had a very stressful time with my father maybe eighteen months or so before I was diagnosed. At diagnosis I was very happily retired enjoying my life with my husband, family, friends, dogs and my quilting. I have wondered whether the extreme stress with my father contributed to my cancer, or was it simply my fault for being overweight or just bad luck. I had mastitis with my first baby. I didn't take the pill for long and never took HRT. A light drinker most of my life. An intermittent excerciser. I had a benign lump removed from the same breast that got cancer many years ago. It was always a lumpy breast. I used to check the lumps there but ridiculously didn't find the lump of my cancer, now wish I had found it earlier. Thank goodness for Breast Screen Australia and regular mammograms. No family history of BC. I feel guilty about my weight. What overweight person doesn't? But thin fit healthy eating women can get BC and all the overweight women out there don't all get it, just some of us. I don't suppose I will ever know why I got it. I will die a long time in the future I hope without medical science solving that conundrum. My oncologist said, the main causes of BC are being a woman and age. I am glad he did not lecture me on my weight.
@fairydust I am so in love for what your saying! I will certainly join with you, and toast for this moment we are here with a glass of wine, cheese and crackers maybe strawberries, grapes and chocolate too......fairydust said:I suppose live life to the fullest is not a bad idea. So join me in a glass of wine ,cheese and crackers maybe strawberries ,grapes chocolate too. Lets toast that at this moment we are here and life is good tomorrow is tomorrow.- I feel guilty that I always had my mobile phone tucked into my bra exactly where my lumps were! Did that cause it.... ?
