Avoiding radiotherapy
Hi, are there any community members here that have avoided radiotherapy and then regretted it later? or vice versa. I had a very small pre cancer, which was non-invasive and I'm in my 40s. I am anxious about radiotherapy (long term effects) and though its the standard treatment (because the precancer was high grade), I am not totally comfortable with it, but perhaps that is normal? Any insights appreciated.
5 months since diagnosis
Hi, I have posted a bit of my story here but thought I'd post a more complete summary here for posterity. I turned 50 in Jan24 and moved from Melbourne to Adelaide in Mar24. Shortly after arriving I got a letter from BreastscreenSA offering free screening and basically ignored it, Then I started a new job in Aug24 and there are BreastscreenSA flyers on the doors in the ladies' loo and those faces kept looking at me everyday so in Nov24 I buckled and book in for a screen in my lunchbreak. I was in and out in 10 minutes, it was a little uncomfortable but not painful. I thought nothing more of it until I got a call 3 weeks later saying after reviewing the images a spot had been noted and I should come in for enhanced imaging, ultra-sound and based on the outcome of those, possibly a biopsy. The appointment was booked in for 2 weeks later. I didn't tell anyone, partner included, and tried not to think about it. I was in the 'its probably nothing' phase. At the appointment I was shown the original mammogram images pointing out the bright spot in my right breast they thought looked suspect. It was small, quite high up and at the back away from the nipple. I had the 3D mammogram and based on that they went ahead with an ultra-sound. They showed me the same spot on the ultra-sound and recommended a biopsy. I went ahead. I had no choice at that point to tell my other half as I came out with a wedge shaped bruise and dressing on my boob I was not going to be able to explain away. I should also say that being a normally healthy person I hadn't bothered registering with a GP since relocating so I had to call around and settle for the only place that was accepting new patients and could do an appointment the next day. 4 days after the biopsy and 9 days before christmas, I went back to the BreastScreenSA assessment centre for my results. It wasn't good news, I had a ~6mm, Grade 2 IDC ER/PR + HER2 -, and very dense breast tissue. The nurse called the GP on my behalf to make an appointment for the next day for a referral for surgery. I was referred to the RAH and had my first appointment with the surgeon and met with the Breast Care nurse just under 2 weeks later, this was 30Dec. The surgeon talked me though the treatment plan. It was to be a lumpectomy with a sentinel node biopsy followed by a course of radiation therapy rounded out with 5 years on Tamoxifen. No chemo required. I'm sure I should have asked more questions about the treatment plan, but to be honest I was so relieved I wouldn't need chemo and he wasn't suggesting a mastectomy I just accepted what he was telling me. I had another ultrasound and they placed a carbon track for the surgeon to follow. I was also booked in for an MRI due to the density of my breast tissue to check for anything the mammogram and ultrasound may have missed. That happened 2 weeks later and thankfully I didn't have to wait long for the results, 2 days later I was told there was nothing else identified on the MRI so we would proceed with the treatment plan which meant surgery 2 weeks later on 30Jan. I had the surgery on the Thursday, up to this point I hadn't really been too emotional or anxious. I was taking each day as it came and going by the 'it is what it is' principle so I wasn't overthinking it. My partner was also determined not to let me give into anxiety and worry, we are both of the British stiff upper lip type, we rarely get over-emotional and the approach worked well. Until I walked into the operating theatre, lay on the bed and burst into tears! It just all became very real and I started sobbing, they asked me to confirm the procedure they were going to be doing, which I did, then all I remember is the nurse holding my hand telling me they would take good care of me and me blubbing 'I know'. Then I woke up in recovery and started crying again, this time with relief. I was in the hospital overnight, I had very little pain - probably due to the pain killers, and I was discharged the next morning. I was given a prescription for some strong painkillers but I didn't need them, I was able to manage with just paracetamol. I was back at work on the Tuesday. I only told 2 of my closest colleagues about my diagnosis, one I sit opposite so I felt it only fair to explain why I might seem 'a little distracted' and was having so many medical appointments. The other is a friend. The only issues I had in the days following surgery was difficulty sleeping as I had to sleep on my back rather than my side/front which I prefer and some swelling which turned out to be a seroma that was drained when the dressing was removed. The special little pillow I was given by the BC nurse was helpful for sleeping a little more comfortably too. I had my post-op follow-up 10 days after surgery and got the news that they had removed a 9mm tumor with clear margins and the lymph nodes were also clear, so no further surgery required. The dressing and stitches were removed and the seroma drained. I was given a prescription for Tamoxifen then too, with instructions to start them sometime after the radiation therapy was finished. Then it was all quiet after that for a few weeks, I was left to heal and I was feeling pretty good, I still had numbness in my underarm area but the swelling was coming down and the bruising fading. 5 weeks after surgery I had my first appointment with the radiation oncologist who explained I would be having 15 fractions over 3 weeks. The planning CT was scheduled the following week, I had my little tattoos and treatment started 2 weeks after that. Call me weird, but I actually rather enjoyed the daily ritual of going to the hospital for my little 10 minute lie down. I might have felt differently if it hadn't been so convenient. I can get to the hospital from home in less than 40 minutes and it is only 10 minutes from where I work, so travelling wasn't an issue and I was able to have the sessions scheduled either before work or during my lunch break. I had very few side effects from the radiation, the only one of note being my nipple itched like crazy, I used the sorbalene I was given and the nurse gave me some silicone dressings that really helped, anti-histamine worked wonders when the itchiness was at its worst. My only other side-effect from treatment so far is a little bit of cording in my right arm which is being managed with massage and exercise through a lymphoedema physio. That brings me right up to the present. The only visible signs are a single scar about 6cm long in the crease of my right breast just below my underarm that is smoothing out and fading nicely, and some residual discolouration from the radiation that is also fading. Yesterday I went to the pharmacy to fill the tamoxifen prescription and took the first tablet this morning. My next appointment is in early August. I'll post more if/when side effects of the tamoxifen kick-in. This the phase of treatment I have been most worried about. I feel well and would rather just leave the whole thing behind me. But I know I can't do that. It was dumb luck that I went for that first mammogram when I did, that the BC was picked up when it was, and was able to be treated to simply. I feel very lucky to have come this far with so little disruption to my life, knowing it could easily have been so much worse. This was a very long post so thank you for persevering if you are still reading, and thank you to all that post, reply and like the posts on this forum. I've read so many stories that just reinforce the gratitude I feel for the support that is their for us all as we travel this journey.Scar Tissue
Hello Members, I am new here. I had bc in my left breast in 2018. After 18 rounds of radiation I was all clear. I am just wondering whether anyone else here has pain that radiates from under their ribs up to under their breast. This started for me about 8 months after radiation with just a stabbing pain in my upper belly under my ribs if I deep laughed. It has now progressed and when I get the pain it moves from the upper belly up to the breast. I have had X-ray, ultrasound which were all clear and the GP thinks it is scar tissue. Has anyone else had treatment for this? Your feed back/thoughts would be appreciated.Radiation burn treatment solution
Hi everyone! I just finished 3 weeks radiation. Breast care nurses gave me sorbolene which I trusted would help heal and keep my breast moisturised. The redness became redder after each time I applied the cream and I thought this is how it's obviously meant to be. A few days after my last treatment, I met some people at a social gathering. A lady who also had radiation, told me about an app called 'Yuki'. She looked up my sorbolene brand, Kenkay and it rated very poorly, 39 out of 100 and contained petrolatum which is a known carcinogen and endochrine disrupter!! I was horrified. My partner's sister got me a bottle of Lavaderm, which I sprayed on and it was so cooling, with natural ingredients. I then put on jojoba oil. The next day - I kid you not - my skin went from lobster red to mild pink!! My skin is back to normal after 2 weeks. Please check your products ladies for after radiation care!
Not sure where to turn for advice
Having been recently diagnosed with a 7.7cm tumour in my B-cup breast (luminal A, invasive ductal carcinoma) and no detectable tumours elsewhere, I've been scheduled for a mastectomy next week, followed by radiation, and possibly chemo, age 43. I don't want to have a mastectomy or subsequent treatment, for a number of reasons. Psychological firstly. Not having longevity as a goal. Not feeling I can physically show up and consent to disfiguring, aggressive and permanently polluting (of body) treatments - feeling that I'd rather die a natural death. Not fearing death. Not feeling any psychological aversion to what's in my breast, not feeling any pain or physical inconvenience from it currently. And also because if it hasn't spread in all the time it took to get that big, evidence that I've found seems to indicate it's not going to spread. (i.e. cancers between about 6cm and 15cm at diagnosis have about equal chance of also having been found in lymph nodes or elsewhere at diagnosis - the 15cm cancers were once 7cm but no greater chance of spread in all that time? Seems the horse has already bolted and is just hiding out dormant elsewhere in body already, or is just peacefully grazing in its own paddock and will never bolt, so either way what's the point in closing the gate / lopping the tit anyway?) I know this is such an unusual way of thinking and I'm having so much trouble getting relevant advice. If I don't get treatment what can I expect my body to do? I'm also very worried about causing distress to people close to me who still expect me to get these awful treatments, I feel pushed by their expectations to do something major to my body I feel personally averse to, I don't know how to tell them. Wondering how to not distress others in any way, seems to be the cause of the majority of my own distress. Any suggestions for where to turn for more advice, or if anyone has had similar thoughts, or evidence/articles to contradict the idea that cancer spreads early in its development if it's going to at all, or just impressions about this situation you might like to share, I would appreciate it. (I have just started seeing a general counsellor with no cancer knowledge, and have also contacted Cancer Council counselling and made an appointment but that will be in 3 weeks. I don't think they'll have the medical answers I'm after, anyway. More support and sooner and more relevant could be so stress-relieving.) Sorry for long post and weird topic.
Negative impact of radiation on Flap (autologous) reconstruction??
Hi all, will have mastectomy in a couple of months time, am considering to have an immediate breast reconstruction (IBC) using my own tissues/ flap (autologous). Unfortunately, I will have a series of radiation after the IBC. I am worried the radiotherapy will kill/destroy/ causing complications on the flaps. I did some research at my end. However the comments were conflicting. Therefore would appreciate your advice. Please..no advice is too silly. Thanks heaps!
Surgical options when you need radiation post surgery ???
Hi All I am seeking advice/information about what options you were given for surgery when you needed to have radiation post surgery. A bit about me, I am 52 single mum to adult sons (one still at home). I was diagnosed with IDC Grade 3 Triple Negative BC in early May. I have been undergoing neoadjuvant chemo and have just completed my last AC treatment, but still have 6 months of immunotherapy to continue. I've lost 10kg as a result of AC treatment. I struggle with being able to eat much so the weight loss may continue which won't be ideal. I get fatigued extremely easily with shakes and feeling like I'm going to faint after simple activities like doing dishes and food shopping. So I'm pretty house bound with minimal family support available. Back to my main question, what surgical options were you given and what warnings about negative side effects of radiation? My initial thought was to have a DMX with immediate implant reconstruction but the Oncoplastics team feel i should go for a SMX with DIEP reconstruction due to the radiation requirement. Due to my weight loss I probably only have just enough tissue for the single DIEP procedure and I'll likely need fairly extensive node removal also as I had 3 active nodes at diagnosis. My concerns are the length of the surgery needed, the scarring from the DIEP procedure and the recovery time as I have my first grandchild due to arrive around Christmas time. Any advice, stories, photos, anything would be much appreciated. Thank you for reading this and I hope your journey is going well. Sandi
StratXRT - first use, not sure I’m doing this right?!
Hi all Invasive lobular carcinoma (Grade 2, ER+ PR+). Breast conserving surgery completed 4/9 (after a wide excision open biopsy on 6/8). Started the first of 15 radiation treatments today and have opted to use StrataXRT. Have only used it once and it doesn’t feel like I expected. Everything talks about a ‘gel’ ‘drying’ and forming a film but this feels like a greasy, not wet solution, and it doesn’t feel wet or dry or appear to have made any film - just a soft, slightly greasy layer similar to how your skin is after using a body butter. Am I doing something wrong? Can anyone who’s used this give me any advice? Keen to get on top of this before application 2. So grateful in advance for your assistance. 🤗❤️Newly diagnosed - October 2024
Hi everyone! Diagnosed just 3 and a half weeks ago. Everything happened so fast. Just had a lumpectomy on Tuesday. 2 lymph nodes removed. I'm 58, mum had breast cancer in the past - she's ok. My tumour was estrogen positive and progesterone positive. HER2 negative. 2cm lump, contained. Radiation in 6 weeks and then endocrine therapy - hormone tablets. Recovering well. Emotions up and down. Doing the exercises given by the nurses. Too much going on in my life right now - brother-in-law has terminal brain cancer and my kids' aunty now has terminal cancer. Not sure how to cope right now with the other family members and myself too. It's like a bad dream you can't wake up from. I have to concentrate on my own health, stay calm and accept what is. Life is challenging isn't it? Nice to be here to connect with other women.
