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HIT
8 years agoMember
HIT - the wall
I finished treatment a about 4 years ago, coming up to my 4 1/2 yr post diagnosis, not doing to badly apart from my feet and tiredness. This weekend I fought against having an afternoon nap when I hit the wall, I went for a short walk (just 10 mins), I tried to do some sewing (that ended up in the bin, stuffed it totally) and by 8.30pm I gave in...and couldn't sleep. Tossed and turned and finally got to sleep. Woke a couple of times through night and dragged myself out of bed at 8am. Woke lethargic, achy, boobs sore, arm sore, back sore, legs sore, throat sore, bloody itchy. Great I am coming down with something. Let myself have an avo nap (21/2 hrs ?nap?) Woke much better, and am fine today. Slept well last night. Oh boy. Go back down to GP and get bloodwork done - iron, thyroid, diabetes, etc etc - AGAIN. No nothing wrong. So what do you do, just accept it. Laugh when you have friends over and I have to have a nana nap...yeah have to laugh or I'd cry.
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- HITMemberAnd Brenda, you weren't meant to die, you are needed on this site. Maybe you, and many like you will help change the system. Did you eat the "queenie" that you caught just before your heart decided to crack up?
- HITMemberHey Zoffiel, was going to say "have you got a driver that you can depend on, if you get to tired", but what the hell, you are taking your bed with you so just stop and sleep!! And go for it. Gotta be better than resting at home all the time. Pam
- kmakmMemberFingers crossed for you @Zoffiel
- ZoffielMember
Thanks, Kmakm, but it isn't just me. The majority of people get through treatment and get on with their lives. It might take a while, and nothing may ever be the same again, but things can be pretty good. I know this because that was my experience the first time. I thought I might be able to pull the same trick twice. Apparently not.
The problem is the 'rare' cases where things are not OK. Where you have adverse reactions, monster side effects, your hair doesn't grow back, you get leukemia, heart disease...blah, blah blah. And that is without having the nightmare of metastatic disease. Yep @HIT it's all in our heads, until something is definitively broken and can no longer be fobbed off.
@Brenda5 I would love to think we could access an early pension (not nearly as much as I would like to just go back to work) Pigs will fly on both counts. If you can't get a disability pension, when you are clearly disabled, there will be no hope of getting an old aged pension until you are what ever age you need to be now. My chances of getting to that age are pretty slim and I can not imagine what my life will look like if I don't start getting my shit together and stop sucking my bank account dry. (Yes, I know I did a reckless and extravagant thing last week) I only get a few dollars a fortnight from Newstart, because I am only working .2 EFT but the total a very small amount of money to live on and the system is set up to treat everyone on that payment like a cheating bludger. I do appreciate the Health Care Card though, that really helps.
The plan, at the moment, is to try to spend a bit of my scarce reserves of energy doing things that are going to bring some pleasure into my life, like taking the camper away for short holidays. I can't afford it and am terrified I will get so exhausted I'll just be a pain in the arse, but I can only try.
In the meantime I'm giving the new meds a couple of months and if there is no change for the better, I'm giving the lot the flick. That may not help either, but at least I will know where 'ground zero' is so I can make up my mind about how to approach my future. The current set up is not acceptable.
- kmakmMemberOh @zoffiel my heart goes out to you! Sending love your way.
- HITMemberThanks Zoffiel, it is all very frustrating. This pushing past it was my GP's idea. ( I am sure they think its in my head!! ) So I can report that I think I would become physically ill if I kept trying to push past it. I don't get it every day at least now but once or twice a week, at the moment. Other days I'm not exactly full of energy, but I don't need an avo sleep!! ie sometimes its not a brick wall but a spider web that just slows me down. I too have tried various supplements as well, and the green smoothies and vege juices. I feel fat and lazy, my fitness levels are probably sunk, which is probably not helping, according to my fit bit thingy most days I do 9000 - 10000 steps, but surprise, surprise on my bad days its more like 3000 - 4000. I am not on ant drugs currently (accept thyroid one that was not caused by chemo HA) had 4 AC 4 Docs & hercepton, (Still reckon that my thyroid got dangerously low on chemo and all the "roundup" as one Margie aptly said stayed on my system too long, docs love that explanation). If its only a year for you it could well be not permanent - I have improved a lot from the early days but after so long think it might be just how it is for me. CRAP. I started my BC JOURNEY (ha ha) a young person and came out the other end an old lady. I'll just shuffle along now...
- Brenda5MemberSometimes I think maybe I should have died during treatment two years ago. At least I would be less of a burden to my family and they could get on with life. It's hard to give up the matriarch duties in a family and just exist.
I live on my veranda and just soak up the lovely views and wildlife and I do get pleasure from it. At least that entertainment doesn't cost me anything.
I really think we should lobby gov't to give us special permission to access the aged pension from age 55 as there is no way on earth I can hold down a job or train for a new one any more. I am still not deemed as disabled, even though I now have tachycardia heart troubles added to the list of conditions probably brought on 10 years early from breast cacner treatment.
The really hard part to take is before breast cancer, I had not been really sick or in hospital in my entire adult life, apart from bearing a couple of kids. I didn't even know you were supposed to swallow Panadol for goodness sakes! I was on no medication at all and thought you had to chew Panadol lol. - ZoffielMember
It's very frustrating @HIT
When I look back on how I was post BC Version 1, I can't reconcile that picture with what life looks like post BC Version 2 . Within 12 months of V1, I was working full time, had been promoted, was breaking in a new horse and was back in the saddle (so to speak) in pretty much every aspect of my life. I really couldn't understand what all the fuss was about. Yes, I was having a lot of problems with the reconstructed tits and had several ops to try to fix the mess, but that made me more irritated than debilitated.
12 months after V2, I'm a wreck. I'm exhausted, struggling to work 3 hours a day and most days start much like you have described--tired, sore, achy, itchy and down in the dumps. I can drag myself up and go for a walk, do a yoga class or go to the gym but then I have to lie down. As far as doing anything challenging in the afternoon is concerned--forget it. My brain doesn't work and neither does my body--I'm a danger to myself and others. I generally won't answer the phone after 8 pm and if friends come to stay for the weekend I'm in bed by 9pm. Is this is my new normal? I. Am. Not. Impressed.
I have just switched from Letrazole to Anastrazole in the hope I might be one of the few people who benefit from the change, minimal as it is. I can't even be sure that the AIs are responsible for the misery, it's possible my body has just had enough. I've tried a variety of supplements and genuinely given getting better a go. Only time will tell, but this is a pretty ordinary way to live and I'm hoping it isn't a permanent condition.
Worst of all, my sense of humour is deserting me--all that's left are the black bits and those are not always that amusing.
- SoldierCrabMemberHey Pam if I am overtired I just dont get to sleep ..... and if I am stressed then I am a wreck be gentle with yourself.
Hugs
soldiercrab - HITMemberThanks Mira - I just need to get over it. I am fine most days, but the bad days seem to be a bit more often at moment - maybe because I am a bit stressed. I do find it embarrassing when I am with friends though. Pre treatment I only slept about 5-7 hrs and never during the day. Am getting older though I suppose. Pam