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I started on Letrozole nearly 5 years ago & only lasted 6 weeks (extreme aches & pains) ..... then Exemestane for 6 months & been on Anastrozole for 4 years now .... and going much better. I am even considering continuing for another 5 years (after discussing it with my onc at my next appt.)
Have a chat with your Onc & see if you might be able to try one of the others ... there is no harm in 'trying'.
Good luck xx
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Thank you again for your bits of advice and updates, it helps so much knowing I am not alone in this journey xx","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:211324_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:17306":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:17306","uid":17306,"login":"iserbrown","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-07-12T16:59:09.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/t5/s/nkyiu94732/images/dS0xNzMwNi1pSjI3dGM?image-coordinates=29%2C0%2C562%2C532"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:17306"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:211323":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:211323","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:211323":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:17306"},"id":"message:211323","revisionNum":1,"uid":211323,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:side-effects"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:211303"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:211303"},"subject":"Re: Feeling \"blue\" on tamoxifen","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:211323"},"body":"The link below explains Tamoxifen
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The three weeks off of Tamoxifen was interesting I felt like a different person, and noticed it within the first week as well. So did my husband who unfortunately has been on the receiving end of my endless mood swings and snappiness! So safe to say the tears, anger and edgy aggressive feelings were all thanks to Tamoxifen. I have been back to the oncologist today and we have made a decision to start on Exemestane (?) and see how I go. I'm hopeful that I feel better taking this one but I guess we will see. It really was so nice to feel semi-normal for a while! 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The three weeks off of Tamoxifen was interesting I felt like a different person, and noticed it within the first week as well. So did my husband who unfortunately has been on the receiving end of my endless mood swings and snappiness! So safe to say the tears, anger and edgy aggressive feelings were all thanks to Tamoxifen. I have been back to the oncologist today and we have made a decision to start on Exemestane (?) and see how I go. I'm hopeful that I feel better taking this one but I guess we will see. It really was so nice to feel semi-normal for a while! 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I then proceeded to see a psychologist who told me perhaps to start taking the anti depressants as they may help me in the short term. Her goal and her agenda turned out to be was to get me to return to work, which was not the help I was wanting at the time, being over 65 and being completing burnt out.
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I want to be ok and I know I will never be my old self, but I want to feel a little joy each day, I don't quite know how to put it into words, I really do think I may need some extra help more than I can achieve on my own through my own measures, I am meeting with my onc this week to discuss and see what his thoughts are. 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Will be interesting to see how you feel on your T break. If you can, please update, it may be something I need to also look into trialling xx @lamberly sorry to hear you are also struggling with anxiety. I too am a born worrier, but this is next level. With my 1st upcoming scans, I am not sure I am strong enough to face. Insomnia is kicking in with me too, although I exercise daily. The struggle is real hey. Big hugs to you also xx I had another counselling session with cancer council, when she asked me a series of questions it made it cement in a little more when I answered how often do you feel down the past 2 weeks, the answer is daily. and losing joy in things I used to enjoy. Not all day every day, but definitely daily. I want to be ok and I know I will never be my old self, but I want to feel a little joy each day, I don't quite know how to put it into words, I really do think I may need some extra help more than I can achieve on my own through my own measures, I am meeting with my onc this week to discuss and see what his thoughts are. Thanks ladies, have a great weekend :-)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:211317_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:20667":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:20667","uid":20667,"login":"arpie","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2018-01-13T01:35:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/t5/s/nkyiu94732/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:20667"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:211316":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:211316","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:211316":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:20667"},"id":"message:211316","revisionNum":1,"uid":211316,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:side-effects"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:211303"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:211303"},"subject":"Re: Feeling \"blue\" on tamoxifen","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:211316"},"body":"Hi @lamberly - welcome to the blog!!! If you go to this thread, there is a bunch of stuff for you to check out - even funny stuff (we all need a laugh!) Also bits if you have furkids, are into art & craft, fishing & a bunch of other things ..... including 'tick sheets' to fill in before you see your health professionals next time. https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/discussion/23477/a-big-welcome-to-all-our-new-members#latest
I have massive tinnitus/ear ringing & it is a real pain. I actually use a 'squishy' ear plug in my left ear & it sort of halves the 'canaries' so I have a better chance of sleeping, at least! I also take a bit of 'magic oil' too and that definitely helps too! My hearing tests indicate there is nothing wrong, even tho I know that one ear is much 'better' than the other! grrr
I am not on Tamoxifen tho, so can't blame IT! Ay yi yi!
Take care - if you feel 'too blue' make sure you ring our help line on 1800 500 258 or contact your breast care nurse to arrange an appt with a counsellor or Psych so they can give you 'coping mechanisms' xx","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"212","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-02-24T00:07:17.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-02-24T00:07:17.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:treatment-and-surgery/community:nkyiu94732board:side-effects/message:211303/message:211316","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1299","rawBody":"Hi @lamberly - welcome to the blog!!! If you go to this thread, there is a bunch of stuff for you to check out - even funny stuff (we all need a laugh!) Also bits if you have furkids, are into art & craft, fishing & a bunch of other things ..... including 'tick sheets' to fill in before you see your health professionals next time. https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/discussion/23477/a-big-welcome-to-all-our-new-members#latest
I have massive tinnitus/ear ringing & it is a real pain. I actually use a 'squishy' ear plug in my left ear & it sort of halves the 'canaries' so I have a better chance of sleeping, at least! I also take a bit of 'magic oil' too and that definitely helps too! My hearing tests indicate there is nothing wrong, even tho I know that one ear is much 'better' than the other! grrr
I am not on Tamoxifen tho, so can't blame IT! Ay yi yi!
Take care - if you feel 'too blue' make sure you ring our help line on 1800 500 258 or contact your breast care nurse to arrange an appt with a counsellor or Psych so they can give you 'coping mechanisms' xx","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:211316_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:224":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:224","uid":224,"login":"lamberly","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2022-03-23T17:05:26.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/t5/s/nkyiu94732/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:224"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:211315":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:211315","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:211315":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:224"},"id":"message:211315","revisionNum":1,"uid":211315,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:side-effects"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:211303"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:211303"},"subject":"Re: Feeling \"blue\" on tamoxifen","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:211315"},"body":"Hi @laurie123, I have been on tamoxifen for about 3 months and experiencing the same. I've had anxiety for years but on tamoxifen, I find my daily anxiety baseline is higher. I definitely have days of feeling flat and down which is quite unlike me. I had a lot of side effects from the meds.. a constant ringing in my ears is another one! A hearing test is next on my list to book in. I'm exercising every day too, I'm not sure if that helps with my mood as much but if definitely helps keep the fatigue at bay.
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