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Michelle_Ma_Bel's avatar
12 years ago

Decisions

Hi, I am 60 going on 45, had a recent mastectomy, and now like Debbie have to make a decision between Tamoxifen and Anastrozole - Aromastase Inhibitor.  I have read and re-read many times all the info especially side effects, none of which appeal to me.  My pathology was DCIS and invasive breast cancer in one breast with hormone positive receptors.  The onc said if I had to get cancer then this was the best one to get, so while I am profoundly grateful for that, coped well with the diagnosis and 2 surgical procedures (hookwire and mastectomy, this decision about which tablet to take is really doing my head in!  If anyone has anything to offer, that would be great.  Good luck everyone and thanks for posting your stories.

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  • I'll let you know what my Onc says next time I see her. I'm doing okay apart from the first bad cold I've had for quite a while which has sapped all my energy and yes I am sitting on my verandah at the moment trying to soak up a little sunshine which seems quite rare in Melbourne in recent days. Fancy having snow on the alps in December! Cheers back to you. Janey xxx
  • Thank you "pink sisters" - I love the term!  To Christine, Jandy, Louise and Robyn, many thanks for your input, all of your comments have been very helpful to me in coming to terms with taking hormone therapy.   I am feeling as ok as I can be about taking Tamoxifen now, day 3 today!  I just need to remind myself about taking things one day at the time, reviewing continuously with onc and GP as time goes on.  I use the image of shutting or slamming a gate in my mind to block negative thoughts.  This helped whilst I was in hospital and while waiting for the pathology post mastectomy.  I'll continue doing that to keep positive with the treatment effects and outcome.  You have all travelled along this difficult road and obviously have become good problem solvers!  It's great to be able to share honestly, so Christine don't think you're being indelicate at all!  Thank you so much.  Be kind to yourselves and have a happy day,   Michelle  :-)

     

  • Janey,I don't see why you couldn't,but we are all different,and our doctors know best you would hope;)My onc just explained it by saying that the Aromatase Inhibitors have such harsh side effects with the joint problems etc.She said if you can take Tamoxifen for a couple of years,you won't have that problem and the risk of endometrial cancer after two years is negligible.Then you change.For me,the idea of postponing joint problems is a good one,because at my age I feel that once all that stuff starts it is going to age me even more!!!!I have always been a reasonably fit person,so for the next two years I am going to work even harder at maintaining that,so when I do change to one of the AI drugs,hopefully my body will have a fighting chance!!!lol. stand by for the next chapter!!!! I would be interested to hear what your onc says Janey.Hope you are doing ok Janey,and still sitting on that verandah out of harms way!! Cheers Robyn.
  • Yes I can appreciate how you feel Louise. I know there are women a lot younger than us that have to go through all this - which always shocks me - but it stil sucks. Sometimes it feels to me that BC has taken away the last little bit of my "youth". I am so grateful to be alive and free of cancer - as far as I know - but it does get me down a bit too.  I guess we've got to go with what our doctors recommend and try and make the most of it. I think exercising, eating healthily, drinking sparingly etc all help minimise side effects. Maybe the femara/letrozole wont be as bad as you (or I) fear. Perhaps you could give it a try and if turns out to be awful you could switch back to tamoxifen. Best of luck with it. 

  • Hi jandy, that makes total sense, thank you. Perhaps my onc recommends it due to my family history of gyno cancer. I have resisted it for almost a year now, but now finishing herception, she is very keen to get me on something. I am terrified of the side effects of letrozole (Femara), just like I was for tamoxifen, which is why i resisted taking it. But I feel like i should be grateful that it is available for me, i am 43 and just dont want to have osteo problems so young. I am pretty low at the moment because of this too and getting angry about the whole BC thing and how unfair and crap it is for us. Sorry to vent here ladies XXX

  • My understanding is that tamoxifen works for both pre-menopausal and post-menopausal women. It blocks any eostrogen in our bodies from "feeding" the cancer cells. Aromatase inhibitors only work when you are post menopausal. Once your ovaries are no longer producing eostrogren, AIs can prevent any other eostrogen being formed in your body (by fat cells I think). So tamoxifen lets you keep some eostrogen circulating in your body after menopause. This eostrogen helps keep your bones stronger and joints healthier (among other things).

    However, AIs apparently reduce the risk of recurrannce in post-menopausal women slightly more than tamxofen does. Also, AIs don't carry the small increased risk of edometrial/uterine cancer associated with tamoxifen. So there are pros and cons with both treatments.

    Despite not having had a period for a year now - making me menopausal - I have decided to stick with tamoxifen because it is not causing me any major side-effects and I feel that at 47 I want to hold onto whatever eostrogen I have left. I am scared that AIs will be a fast-track to a sexless old-age with brittle bones and achey joints. While my onocologist has suggested switching to an AI she was not particularly concerned when I said no to it.  Perhaps I will switch when I am a bit older but for now I am okay with tamoxifen. Good luck with your decision Michelle, I hope all goes smoothly for you.

  • Fancy getting the diagnosis on your 60th birthday!  Guess it was a positive gift in that the cancer was able to be treated in good time!  Certainly not the news anyone wants on their birthday though!  So glad you are doing well on the AI and that your reconstruction has been so successful :-)  It's great to have the blog, thanks for your input!

    Have just got my script filled, so here we go, another step on way.  Cheers, Michelle.

  • Thank you very much Robyn W,  your comments were really helpful.   My onc says she is thinking 2 and half years on Tamoxifen and then follow with the same for the Aromatase inhibitor, then reassess.  The reality is that's what we are being offered here and now. I don't feel as panicky as I did and I guess now I just need to get on with it and get the script filled for Tamoxifen.   The doctors and my breast care nurse are very supportive so hopefully any side effects can be managed well.  I am having a bone density test in a few weeks and am hoping that the results will be good.  My greatest fear with side effects of treatment is the bone and joint pain as earlier this year, for approx 3 months I had a severe sudden onset of arthritic type pain from shoulders to fingers - couldn't even pull the quilt up on my bed.  I had treatment and the pain, apart from slight sensations occasionally, has gone.  I am no longer on any medication for it.  There is much to be grateful for, so thanks for giving me an extra dose of courage!  Hoping you have a good day!  Sending a big hug!  

    Michelle.  xxoo

     

  • Hi Michelle,Christine,and Louise,Here is another spin on this topic.I am 58 and have been in Menopause for 6years.My chemo is finishing soon,and my oncologist,who I really admire,has been talking to me about this subject.I will be going onto Tamoxifen for 2years and then switching to an Aromatase Inhibitor for 5,then we will review things,and maybe continue for another 5.The reasoning for this is,that the benefits of Tamoxifen are well known,but also the increased risks with it long term.Of course,AI drugs have the effects on the bones in post menopausal women.So I guess you could say,the best of both,but hopefully avoid the risk of endometrial cancer by using Tamoxifen for only 2 years.My bones are particularly good,and in that. 2 years,I will be working hard at keeping them that way.Hope that this may help,but it probably adds to the confusion.;)Cheers. Robyn.xoxo
  • Hi Michelle (& Christine), my understanding is that Tamoxifen works in pre menopausal women and AI works post menopause. The way they work is different, so it depends where you are at.

    I am currently waiting on a blood test to confirm I am in menopause then will start Femara. I have had a series of bloods done over the past 10 months to confirm menopause.

    Christine I am happy to read your comments on Femara, as the potential side effects are really getting me down. And I haven't even started. Take care ladies xxxlouie