Lots of people have reconstruction after surgery for mastectomy. My surgeon didnt do reconstruction either but could recommend someone else. He told me that he had a patient who 10 years after initial treatment decided to get reconstructed.
The most important thing is to get the cancer dealt with. Everyone gets swept along quickly with mind reeling. How the hell are you supposed to know.
After my single mastectomy i peeked at the scar and it wasnt nearly as bad as i thought. Quite nice and tidy. Still a little confronting. In that momeny i decided to look kindly on my body which had been through so much - and yet to go through all the other chemo/rads stuff.
Whatever you choose you are still you there are still choices and opportunuties.","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"MicheleR"},"postTime":"2021-05-28T22:27:01.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":6}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXwy","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":111438,"body":"I firstly wanted to say Hi as I am 45 and received my surprise diagnosis earlier this year as well. I went in for a mamo and ultrasound due to what appeared to be some mastitis near my right nipple. That turned out to be a cyst, of which many were found (explains my 'lumpy' breasts), however microcalcifications were also picked up in a different area on that breast. No lump was palpable and nothing showed on the ultrasound. A stereotactic biopsy revealed IDC around the patch of DCIS. Thankfully my surgeon got me to have an MRI at that point to get a better idea of the size and spread before we went any further discussing surgery options.
Long story short, it showed as just the 1 area, other breast clear, lymph nodes not enlarged. Due to anxiety and wanting to avoid radiotherapy, I had a skin sparing mastectomy on that side with immediate implant reconstruction and sentinel node biopsy. Nodes came back clear and cancer is definitely just isolated to that one area.
Even then, probably due to anxiety, I was still tempted to have a DMX. In your shoes, with changes visible in the other breast, *I* would have a double. But that's me, my anxiety, wanting to have as few surgeries and recoveries as possible, etc. Everyone is different.
Practically speaking, I'm glad I had just the one side done and went with an implant. My kids are 7 and 13, I work full time on my feet (primary teacher) and my husband works long hours. So mobility and recovery are big factors for me. If my kids were older, I would have probably been ok having both breasts and abdomen surgery recovery, as they would be less dependent on my labour at home (especially the young one). I may go the option of DMX/flesh recon once my implant is due for replacing.
Do joint the choosing reconstruction group. It was such a great help in deciding between my choices!!! I've posted in there and will put some new photos in today (5 1/2 weeks post surgery).
Also, I sped up the public hospital process by doing some appointments privately. It's not made it hugely more expensive (around $50-60 out of pocket per specialist appointment). Many surgeons practise in both public and private hospitals. I saw my surgeon privately and he could book me in to the public hospital (he didn't end up being the one who did the surgery). He then also referred me to the PS who saw me within days and added her part of the surgery onto the booking. I still had to wait a month, due to the hospital needing to coordinate 2 surgeons and a longer surgery. But the whole booking/consulting part was faster than the hospital system. So if you can afford this option, you could call your hospital to get the details of any of their breast surgeons who also consul privately. ","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"StrongCoffee"},"postTime":"2021-05-27T19:36:10.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":4}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXwz","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":111444,"body":"Each year I have my mammogram and ultrasound I really wonder why I didn't get both my breasts removed! Some don't have that same feeling, but some certainly do! The fear of a recurrence in the breasts never leaves me!
","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"Keeping_positiv"},"postTime":"2021-05-28T06:05:48.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":3}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXw0","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":111447,"body":"@Locksley thank you, thank you, thank you for your honest feelings on this topic. I was accused by some BCNA mods of scaring some members by my honest feelings on this topic a while back! I really think we should be able to express our feelings on this forum and not have BCNA \"paid\" staff monitor us denying our feelings. I totally agree I also wonder why I didn't have both boobs off! Being in the public system is a different scenario! ","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"Keeping_positiv"},"postTime":"2021-05-28T07:06:32.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":3}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXw1","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":111449,"body":"@Keeping_positive1 I absolutely appreciate honest opinions, personal feelings and accounts. At first I thought I was being crazy for wanting to do it and I may still change my mind when given all of the facts. It has only been a few days since confirmation.
Certainly seems I am not alone!
That fact has been the biggest shock to me, just how many women get BC!
@Locksley I thank my guardian angel, or whatever it was, that pushed me into having it that day, daily.
Another thing that shocked both myself and my GP, is the recommended age for starting. I had the 45 year olds health assessment late last year and the recommendation was to start mammogram at 50! Imagine if I had...I think GPs need to be educated on this and change the care plan/health assessment recommendations.
The information available on the Breast Cancer Network Australia website is not medical advice and is provided for information purposes only. It should not be viewed as a replacement for a consultation with a qualified medical professional. Our website is designed to offer information and support to the general public. Be aware that we do not provide any medical advice, and for medical advice we recommend you speak to a qualified medical professional or doctor.
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2 weeks later, I’ve seen the surgeon and booked in for lumpectomy and snb. That was 3 weeks ago. Went for my follow up with pathology results and the tumour was twice the size, a second they couldn’t see and widespread DCIS also not previously visible. MRI confirmed.
Now I’ve been told it’s single mastectomy and losing the nipple. It’s been a whirlwind 2 months!
The other breast was clear but did show subtle areas of change?
I’m having the DIEP reconstruction, get a free tummy tuck silver linings 😏, but all I can think of is, I never want to go through this again, don’t Want to take any risks and would rather just get the other side taken off at same time. The surgeon said it’s not necessary but that was just the initial conversation.. im going through the public system so is it even a possibility to have it removed at same time by choice?
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How have others felt after making these decisions?
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I had a BMX after a diagnosis of cancer in the right boob. I had a strong family history of BC so it was on the cards from the start. My breast surgeon actually initiated the discussion.
My mother had a mastectomy in 1986 and said she wished she'd been given the option to have the other one off. She's a worrier and loathed the anxiety she had to endure every year.
It was not an easy decision for me. Having chemo gave me time to think but it was months of agonising. Using the BRECONDA tool was useful.
It turned out I have a gene mutation so it was a very good thing I had lefty off. I have no regrets (sadness yes, but no regrets) and my relief at not having an annual mammogram knows no bounds.
There's no right or wrong, and the only surgeon I'd even DREAM of letting tell me I was silly would be one who's also had breast cancer. How rude and insensitive! No feelings are \"silly\" when it comes to cancer. There's no wrong or right. Undisturbed, flat or reconstructed, the only person who has to be comfortable with your decision is YOU. K xox","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":2,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-06-06T07:02:28.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-06-06T07:02:28.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:newly-diagnosed/community:nkyiu94732board:general-newly-diagnosed/message:111430/message:111458","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1105","rawBody":"Hi @JayMB. I had a BMX after a diagnosis of cancer in the right boob. I had a strong family history of BC so it was on the cards from the start. My breast surgeon actually initiated the discussion.
My mother had a mastectomy in 1986 and said she wished she'd been given the option to have the other one off. She's a worrier and loathed the anxiety she had to endure every year.
It was not an easy decision for me. Having chemo gave me time to think but it was months of agonising. Using the BRECONDA tool was useful.
It turned out I have a gene mutation so it was a very good thing I had lefty off. I have no regrets (sadness yes, but no regrets) and my relief at not having an annual mammogram knows no bounds.
There's no right or wrong, and the only surgeon I'd even DREAM of letting tell me I was silly would be one who's also had breast cancer. How rude and insensitive! No feelings are \"silly\" when it comes to cancer. There's no wrong or right. Undisturbed, flat or reconstructed, the only person who has to be comfortable with your decision is YOU. K xox","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:111458_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:22915":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:22915","uid":22915,"login":"Pru","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2020-08-24T23:15:33.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/t5/s/nkyiu94732/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:22915"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:111457":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:111457","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:111457":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:22915"},"id":"message:111457","revisionNum":1,"uid":111457,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:111430"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"subject":"Re: Single or double mastectomy?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:111457"},"body":"Hi @JayMB sorry to hear your news - there's so much to take in and decide so quickly. I was diagnosed in May last year - like you not everything was visible and after initial lumpectomy & auxiliary clearance, I had to return for a second wide excision a week later to try and get a margin. That also failed so onto a mastectomy. My surgeon supported my choice to remove both breasts as completely reasonable even though there was no changes to the right. She was very clear that even though there was no scientific evidence for the removal of the second breast many women choose it and she could understand why and supportive of that. After six moths of chemo I had bilateral mastectomy in December 2020. I have no regrets and it is relieving that I won't have to have mammograms or breast surgeries etc going forward.
Like you I was offered and intended to go with immediate DIEP flap reconstruction but after enquiring about complication/surgical return rates I decided against it. I share this because I had post surgical complications from lumpectomies which were really tough to deal with and required further hospitalisation, medication and massive impact on my family as well as myself. I was the outlier in all of that so not at all likely in your situation but it left me feeling that did not want to have more surgery (s). I found this website about aesthetic flat closure helpful in feeling at peace with my decision for double mastectomy with no recon. https://notputtingonashirt.org It's nearly six months from surgery now and I'm comfortable with my flat, no nipple chest. Best of luck with everything. When I was trying to decide what to do my best friend said to me 'there's no wrong decision' and that was so helpful. They are just decisions about what feels best to you at the time - you really can't get it wrong. Warm wishes, Pru","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"217","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-06-03T18:46:34.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-06-03T18:46:34.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:newly-diagnosed/community:nkyiu94732board:general-newly-diagnosed/message:111430/message:111457","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2099","rawBody":"Hi @JayMB sorry to hear your news - there's so much to take in and decide so quickly. I was diagnosed in May last year - like you not everything was visible and after initial lumpectomy & auxiliary clearance, I had to return for a second wide excision a week later to try and get a margin. That also failed so onto a mastectomy. My surgeon supported my choice to remove both breasts as completely reasonable even though there was no changes to the right. She was very clear that even though there was no scientific evidence for the removal of the second breast many women choose it and she could understand why and supportive of that. After six moths of chemo I had bilateral mastectomy in December 2020. I have no regrets and it is relieving that I won't have to have mammograms or breast surgeries etc going forward.
Like you I was offered and intended to go with immediate DIEP flap reconstruction but after enquiring about complication/surgical return rates I decided against it. I share this because I had post surgical complications from lumpectomies which were really tough to deal with and required further hospitalisation, medication and massive impact on my family as well as myself. I was the outlier in all of that so not at all likely in your situation but it left me feeling that did not want to have more surgery (s). I found this website about aesthetic flat closure helpful in feeling at peace with my decision for double mastectomy with no recon. https://notputtingonashirt.org It's nearly six months from surgery now and I'm comfortable with my flat, no nipple chest. Best of luck with everything. When I was trying to decide what to do my best friend said to me 'there's no wrong decision' and that was so helpful. They are just decisions about what feels best to you at the time - you really can't get it wrong. Warm wishes, Pru","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:111457_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:18897":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:18897","uid":18897,"login":"melclarity","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-06-18T16:47:34.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/legacyfs/online/userpics/J3JR7U7X56WJ/pC5UCYVZKY7PG.jpg"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:18897"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:111456":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:111456","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:111456":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:18897"},"id":"message:111456","revisionNum":1,"uid":111456,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:111430"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"subject":"Re: Single or double mastectomy?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:111456"},"body":"@JayMB Im so sorry to hear of your whirlwind few months. Its an awful lot to take in.
I had a single mastectomy diep flap recon in 2017 and its been great! the only thing I often think of now is Im too large, so that would be the only reason I wouldve chosen to have done a double. Otherwise my right breast is absolutely fine.
Ive been on this road since 2011, so happy to answer absolutely any question you may have :) I had it all done in the public system in Melbourne. I do have private health cover, however my Surgeon said he also worked in public together with the plastic surgeon and said it would save me alot of out of pocket.
Don't hesitate to ask anything. Hugs M x","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"208","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-06-01T04:54:32.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-06-01T04:54:32.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:newly-diagnosed/community:nkyiu94732board:general-newly-diagnosed/message:111430/message:111456","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"723","rawBody":"@JayMB Im so sorry to hear of your whirlwind few months. Its an awful lot to take in.
I had a single mastectomy diep flap recon in 2017 and its been great! the only thing I often think of now is Im too large, so that would be the only reason I wouldve chosen to have done a double. Otherwise my right breast is absolutely fine.
Ive been on this road since 2011, so happy to answer absolutely any question you may have :) I had it all done in the public system in Melbourne. I do have private health cover, however my Surgeon said he also worked in public together with the plastic surgeon and said it would save me alot of out of pocket.
Don't hesitate to ask anything. Hugs M x","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:111456_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:22466":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:22466","uid":22466,"login":"Mazbeth","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2020-01-25T06:46:55.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/legacyfs/online/avatarstock/p8PPD0ZOMY9F1.png"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:22466"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:111455":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:111455","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:111455":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:22466"},"id":"message:111455","revisionNum":1,"uid":111455,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:111430"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"subject":"Re: Single or double mastectomy?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:111455"},"body":"There is a lot of good information in everyone’s responses. It is a very individual decision, but it is such a good idea to get as much information as you can to help you. I used the ‘BRECONDA’ site to help get some clarity. My path was - ILC left breast, neoadjuvent chemo, BMX with expanders which were swapped out for implants in Dec, 2020.
I talked it all through with a fabulous psychologist who helped me immensely. Pathology showed clear nodes, no LVI, but my right breast (the ‘good’ breast) showed some ‘abnormal cells’ - not cancer, but my doctor said that they would have needed monitoring. Turns out the BMX was a very good decision. My doctor supported my decision for the BMX from the start. My breasts were very large - DD and I no longer trusted them.
I want to add something which has taken me a while to make peace with. I had dense breasts and cysts so I was used to biopsies etc over many years (I am 54) and at my last check at a private breast clinic, the doctor referred my on to a breast specialist to chat about starting tamoxifen as a preventative measure and to start annual MRIs. I was shocked as it seemed like things had become a lot more serious. Little did I know what was looming. I spoke to my GP and he suggested a BMX as a preventative - something I thought about but had not articulated as I didn’t want to be ‘judged’ as overreacting and doing something extreme. As it turns out, if I did have a preventative BMX, I would have been diagnosed anyway. I try mot to get bogged down in the what could have been, but focus on what I can control moving forward.
My point is, do what you need to do for your ongoing health, both in the physical and mental sense. Take care x","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":3,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-29T16:30:14.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-29T16:30:14.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:newly-diagnosed/community:nkyiu94732board:general-newly-diagnosed/message:111430/message:111455","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1744","rawBody":"There is a lot of good information in everyone’s responses. It is a very individual decision, but it is such a good idea to get as much information as you can to help you. I used the ‘BRECONDA’ site to help get some clarity. My path was - ILC left breast, neoadjuvent chemo, BMX with expanders which were swapped out for implants in Dec, 2020.
I talked it all through with a fabulous psychologist who helped me immensely. Pathology showed clear nodes, no LVI, but my right breast (the ‘good’ breast) showed some ‘abnormal cells’ - not cancer, but my doctor said that they would have needed monitoring. Turns out the BMX was a very good decision. My doctor supported my decision for the BMX from the start. My breasts were very large - DD and I no longer trusted them.
I want to add something which has taken me a while to make peace with. I had dense breasts and cysts so I was used to biopsies etc over many years (I am 54) and at my last check at a private breast clinic, the doctor referred my on to a breast specialist to chat about starting tamoxifen as a preventative measure and to start annual MRIs. I was shocked as it seemed like things had become a lot more serious. Little did I know what was looming. I spoke to my GP and he suggested a BMX as a preventative - something I thought about but had not articulated as I didn’t want to be ‘judged’ as overreacting and doing something extreme. As it turns out, if I did have a preventative BMX, I would have been diagnosed anyway. I try mot to get bogged down in the what could have been, but focus on what I can control moving forward.
My point is, do what you need to do for your ongoing health, both in the physical and mental sense. Take care x","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:111455_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:15050":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:15050","uid":15050,"login":"June1952","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-08-23T05:37:50.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/legacyfs/online/avatarstock/pX48OEMBIO9PJ.png"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:15050"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:111454":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:111454","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:111454":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:15050"},"id":"message:111454","revisionNum":1,"uid":111454,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:111430"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"subject":"Re: Single or double mastectomy?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:111454"},"body":"Hi @MicheleR - yes, we are still us and when I look at my body I try to remember to say they are all just battle scars and are from something which tried to kill me but failed. 💖","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"185","kudosSumWeight":2,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-28T23:03:48.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-28T23:03:48.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:newly-diagnosed/community:nkyiu94732board:general-newly-diagnosed/message:111430/message:111454","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"185","rawBody":"Hi @MicheleR - yes, we are still us and when I look at my body I try to remember to say they are all just battle scars and are from something which tried to kill me but failed. 💖","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:111454_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:22796":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:22796","uid":22796,"login":"MicheleR","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2020-07-07T01:38:54.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://onlinenetwork.bcna.org.au/t5/s/nkyiu94732/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=0"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732/user:22796"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:111453":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:111453","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:111453":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:22796"},"id":"message:111453","revisionNum":1,"uid":111453,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:111430"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"subject":"Re: Single or double mastectomy?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:111453"},"body":"I think thats a good point @June1952.
Lots of people have reconstruction after surgery for mastectomy. My surgeon didnt do reconstruction either but could recommend someone else. He told me that he had a patient who 10 years after initial treatment decided to get reconstructed.
The most important thing is to get the cancer dealt with. Everyone gets swept along quickly with mind reeling. How the hell are you supposed to know.
After my single mastectomy i peeked at the scar and it wasnt nearly as bad as i thought. Quite nice and tidy. Still a little confronting. In that momeny i decided to look kindly on my body which had been through so much - and yet to go through all the other chemo/rads stuff.
Whatever you choose you are still you there are still choices and opportunuties.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"208","kudosSumWeight":6,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-28T22:27:01.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-28T22:27:01.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:newly-diagnosed/community:nkyiu94732board:general-newly-diagnosed/message:111430/message:111453","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"853","rawBody":"I think thats a good point @June1952.
Lots of people have reconstruction after surgery for mastectomy. My surgeon didnt do reconstruction either but could recommend someone else. He told me that he had a patient who 10 years after initial treatment decided to get reconstructed.
The most important thing is to get the cancer dealt with. Everyone gets swept along quickly with mind reeling. How the hell are you supposed to know.
After my single mastectomy i peeked at the scar and it wasnt nearly as bad as i thought. Quite nice and tidy. Still a little confronting. In that momeny i decided to look kindly on my body which had been through so much - and yet to go through all the other chemo/rads stuff.
Whatever you choose you are still you there are still choices and opportunuties.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:111453_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:111452":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:111452","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:111452":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:15050"},"id":"message:111452","revisionNum":1,"uid":111452,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:111430"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"subject":"Re: Single or double mastectomy?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:111452"},"body":"Thank you, @Pru for that link (above). I had an emergency single mastectomy (non skin or nipple sparing) but as I am a 'worrier' I wish I'd been told of the possibility of a double as the annual checks make me anxious. My surgeon does not do reconstruction and way after the event I was doing research and sort of decided to go back for DIEP and as that can only be done once I would have had both done. Unfortunately life has got in the way so I remain lopsided.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":2,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-05-28T21:04:46.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-05-28T21:04:46.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:newly-diagnosed/community:nkyiu94732board:general-newly-diagnosed/message:111430/message:111452","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"478","rawBody":"Thank you, @Pru for that link (above). I had an emergency single mastectomy (non skin or nipple sparing) but as I am a 'worrier' I wish I'd been told of the possibility of a double as the annual checks make me anxious. My surgeon does not do reconstruction and way after the event I was doing research and sort of decided to go back for DIEP and as that can only be done once I would have had both done. Unfortunately life has got in the way so I remain lopsided.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:111452_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:111451":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:111451","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:111451":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:22796"},"id":"message:111451","revisionNum":1,"uid":111451,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:111430"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"subject":"Re: Single or double mastectomy?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:111451"},"body":"Hi @AllyJay,
Noone needs to justify their decision. It is very personal.
I guess my point might be it all happens so fast. You cant know the right thing. Only take advice. Mastectomy is a big operation, reconstruction is big.
Noone needs to justify their decision. It is very personal.
I guess my point might be it all happens so fast. You cant know the right thing. Only take advice. Mastectomy is a big operation, reconstruction is big.
There are cosmetic concerns.
Take your time. Look after yourself.
Michele x
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Ive had a single mastectomy and large lobular cancer in that one. I had skin left if i wanted a reconstruction later.
Im actually having a tidy up later in the year to go flat.
Im only posting to give a different point of view. We all fear recurrence but it doesnt necessarily mean it will happen.
I didnt know how i would feel. I have c cup breasts and i get around without a prosthetic. I dont think anyone gives me a second glance now. During chemo yes.
Im not that keen on lots of surgery. It took a good while to recover from the mastectomy and i had to learn to wipe my bottom with the other arm. Noone tells you that stuff! Cant imagine how hard a double mastectomy is.
Ive had a single mastectomy and large lobular cancer in that one. I had skin left if i wanted a reconstruction later.
Im actually having a tidy up later in the year to go flat.
Im only posting to give a different point of view. We all fear recurrence but it doesnt necessarily mean it will happen.
I didnt know how i would feel. I have c cup breasts and i get around without a prosthetic. I dont think anyone gives me a second glance now. During chemo yes.
Im not that keen on lots of surgery. It took a good while to recover from the mastectomy and i had to learn to wipe my bottom with the other arm. Noone tells you that stuff! Cant imagine how hard a double mastectomy is.
Michele","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:111450_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:111449":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:111449","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:111449":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:23231"},"id":"message:111449","revisionNum":1,"uid":111449,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:111430"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:111430"},"subject":"Re: Single or double mastectomy?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:111449"},"body":"@Keeping_positive1 I absolutely appreciate honest opinions, personal feelings and accounts. At first I thought I was being crazy for wanting to do it and I may still change my mind when given all of the facts. It has only been a few days since confirmation.
Certainly seems I am not alone!
That fact has been the biggest shock to me, just how many women get BC!
@Locksley I thank my guardian angel, or whatever it was, that pushed me into having it that day, daily.
Another thing that shocked both myself and my GP, is the recommended age for starting. I had the 45 year olds health assessment late last year and the recommendation was to start mammogram at 50! Imagine if I had...I think GPs need to be educated on this and change the care plan/health assessment recommendations.
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Certainly seems I am not alone!
That fact has been the biggest shock to me, just how many women get BC!
@Locksley I thank my guardian angel, or whatever it was, that pushed me into having it that day, daily.
Another thing that shocked both myself and my GP, is the recommended age for starting. I had the 45 year olds health assessment late last year and the recommendation was to start mammogram at 50! Imagine if I had...I think GPs need to be educated on this and change the care plan/health assessment recommendations.
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