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jennyss
7 years agoMember
More research needed into side-effects of chemo and hormone therapy
In our BCNA network, many members report unexpected, painful and ongoing side-effects during and after chemotherapy and hormone therapy; for example in a recent discussion on ‘hormone therapy and tendon issues’. Sometimes treating medical staff seem to be unsure about causes and best treatment for side-effects.
I read a study 'Incidence and severity of self-reported chemotherapy side-effects in routine care' (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0184360#sec013 ) This study reports that knowledge about side-effects comes largely from clinical trials. There is little evidence coming from normal clinical care.
In this study 449 people with breast, lung or bowel cancer were interviewed and asked questions about their side-effects. The study found that “3/4 of individuals undergoing chemotherapy in NSW will experience multiple side-effects during their treatment, and for over 60% this will include a serious side-effect.” The study found that side-effects were similar across the three cancer types.
The authors suggest that “this information is useful for both clinicians and policy makers, who typically make treatment and funding decisions for standard practice, but often on the basis of potentially unrealistic clinical trials. This work also confirms the need for side effects to be collected using patient-reported methods, to be monitored throughout chemotherapy treatment, and highlights the importance of observational data in providing information for decision-makers that is relevant to the clinical practice setting.”
Have a look at this study; it is very interesting and readable, and brings up lots of questions and ideas. Although this study is about chemo side-effects, and does not include hormone therapy side-effects; I am thinking that a similar study is needed to measure hormone therapy side-effects in the real world.
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- arpieMemberI seriously hope they ARE interested, @kmakm - as it would be one surefire way of people remaining ON the AIs for a longer period of time, instead of being disabled & pissed off (as @melclarity mentions as being a major problem for Oncologists.)
Do they know the percentages that drop out of the AI treatment, due to side effects? I reckon it would be huge.
ANYTHING that enables us to stay on it - has to be a bonus, even if just the 1% added protection (as with me, too.)
We're all only too aware of the crippling side effects that we've suffered (keeping in mind that we WERE NOT ILL before taking the AIs but sure as hell are afterwards!!) There is just too much anecdotal evidence that this pain/discomfort from side effects is VERY REAL & not imaginary.
If only we could do something to THEM to give them a taste of what we have to put up with ..... I reckon they would be WAY more proactive in searching for a 'fix'!
But, TBH, I reckon medicinal Cannabis Oil is right up there as a 'fix'! I haven't taken a pain tablet or sleeping tablet since I started using it. I've had a few nights of stuffed sleep - but usually, without it, it is only a few nights of 'good sleep'. - melclarityMember@jennyss thank you, yes I saw that...however Dr Richard De Boer is my actual Oncologist LOL, so he and I were only communicating a few weeks ago and particularly about the AI's uuugh! I see him in a months time. I won't be listening to this Webinar, moreso as in 8yrs Ive been on Tamoxifen, Arimidex, Aromasin and will be going to Letrozole in a month for my final 18 months. Tamoxifen didn't work for me, nor treatment having had a recurrence after 4yrs, not even Mr De Boer can answer why, apart from Tamoxifen has learnt to adapt so in 1/3 of cases it doesn't work. In terms of an AI, for me it's only like 1% or so added protection, so not much. It's because of my recurrence that he urges me to take it. Have to be guided by your Oncologist, he did say majority of women stop their medication prior to the 5yrs due to side effects, he has urged me not to. He does understand about compromised quality of life however doesnt offer any suggestions as his job I guess is to provide treatment. x
- jennyssMemberDear @Sister, @Zoffiel, @Brenda5, @Harvey1903, @kitkatb, @melclarity, @primek; just making sure you have seen the notice from @Rosie_BCNA on the last page about the webinar this Thurs 6th at 7pm titled 'Hormone Blocking Therapy - Is it worth It?'. @kmakm is participating as a BCNA member. @Rosie_BCNA has also described above how we can listen to the webinar later if we can't make it on Thursday night. Best wishes to all
- kmakmMember@pammiesyd It's about all endocrine therapies so Tamoxifen will be covered.
@arpie I'll try! - pammiesydMember@arpie great idea.
@kmakm can you also get them to talk about tamoxifen please - arpieMember@kmakm - Ask them about accessing medicinal cannabis oil for relief of side effects! ;)
- Rosie_BCNAMemberHi @jennyss, All previous webcasts are available to view later through this link - https://www.bcna.org.au/understanding-breast-cancer/resources/webcasts/
You need to complete the registration for each webcast/podcast you wish to view/listen to but can then return multiple times to this resource.
With @kmakm speaking of the "real world" experience and with the other experts on the panel, it should be a stimulating and really informative session. - kmakmMemberThank you @jennyss. As you can imagine, because it's the part of treatment I'm in at the moment, I feel very strongly about it! I am SO interested to hear what the docs have to say. And I very much feel that I'm there to represent this community here. K xox
- jennyssMemberDear @Rosie_BCNA, 'Hormone blocking therapy; Is it worth it?' - this will be an excellent webcast. Unfortunately I will be travelling and unable to listen at the time. Can the webcast be accessed later?
Dear network members, I hope lots of you can listen and report back and discuss the information and issues.
And go @kmakm, your participation will make this session very relevant. Thanks for taking part. - Rosie_BCNAMemberDear Community,
You may be interested in the BCNA webcast this Thursday evening 6/06/2019 at 7pm (EST) called Hormone-blocking therapy - is it worth it?
Details of the speakers and registration is available through the following link -
https://login.redbackconferencing.com.au/landers/page/b8a6d8
To view other webcasts and podcasts and see what is coming up, go to BCNA website:
https://www.bcna.org.au/understanding-breast-cancer/resources/webcasts/
Cheers,
Rosie