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Artferret
7 years agoMember
Hormone therapy, is it worth it webcast
@kmakm Way to go , Kate! You were awesome! And thanks for having my drug holiday question featured too. I am doing a diary for it but had not contemplated continuing it after resuming the drug but now i shall, good idea.
There was so much info that i will have to watch it again if i can figure out how to do it! @Giovanna_BCNA can you or someone else let me know?
There was so much info that i will have to watch it again if i can figure out how to do it! @Giovanna_BCNA can you or someone else let me know?
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- BlondyMember@artferret, I only had Letrozole at the start, for 6 months. Horrid. I was put on Anastrozle and yes you do swap side effects but these I can live with and are minimal. They all do the same thing but some just don't suit us. You might me pleasantly surprised if you changed to another. You can always go back.
- SisterMember@arpie I did put a post up about it a few weeks ago. That's interesting @melclarity
- melclarityMemberThis is interesting and I'm wondering if this is why also that Prolia which is used for Osteoporosis offers protection to Breast Cancer as they cant explain how it works but it does. Ive been on injections for 3yrs.
- arpieMember@Sister ..... I've never heard of that one!! Where did you learn about it? Maybe it needs it's own thread?
Sounds like it should be fast tracked!!
I'll put my hand up for that trial!!OSTEOPOROSIS DRUG SHOWS NEW PROMISE FOR BREAST CANCER
April 16th, 2019Estrogen receptor-positive (ER+) breast cancer affects over 65% of women with the disease. Unfortunately, it is also common for ER+ tumours to become resistant to first-line ER-targeting drugs, a phenomenon known as endocrine resistance. It is thus important that new treatment options are developed to treat these resistant cancers.
One class of drug that has raised great interest in breast cancer treatment is the selective androgen receptor (AR) modulators (SARMs). Enobosarm is one example of a SARM – an early impetus for developing SARMs was osteoporosis. SARMs work by stimulating androgen receptors in a similar way to natural androgen hormones. However, unlike androgens, enobosarm does not have masculinizing side effects in women.
A recent Phase II clinical trial showed that enobosarm was effective at treating metastatic ER+ and AR+ breast cancer, with patients reaching stable disease. So far this is the only new generation AR targeted therapy to achieve this outcome. The drug was well tolerated and not associated with any toxicity. The Phase II study looked at dosing and safety, and was the only AR target therapy trial where the endpoint was achieved.
Another study is now underway in the UK, called the Emerald trial, which is examining whether enobosarm is also beneficial for women with newly diagnosed ER+ breast cancer. If so, this drug could then be a potential treatment for both early and late stage disease, providing patients with more treatment alternatives at any stage of their journey.
Professor Wayne Tilley from the Dame Roma Mitchell Cancer Research Laboratories at the University of Adelaide has contributed critical research findings that led to the new clinical trial, the Emerald trial, and is excited about the potential of enobosarm and other SARMs as treatment options for breast cancer.
“Our data show that activation of androgen receptors with enobosarm (or a similar drug) can inhibit tumours that are endocrine-resistant,” he said. “This opens the door for a new treatment avenue that could significantly prolong life.”
Professor Tilley emphasised the importance of patient well-being whilst being treated for breast cancer. ER-target treatments for hormone-sensitive breast cancers are often associated with debilitating side effects, leaving patients feeling miserable and even ceasing to take the therapy.
“We have been advocates for SARMs because they not only have the potential to prolong life, but they have the potential to make patients feel better while on therapy,” he explained. “This reduction in negative side effects is because the drugs promote bone, muscle and brain health.”
The pilot study of enobosarm was funded by the NBCF in Australia. Professor Tilley thanked the supporters of his work, saying “Funding from the NBCF is a vital part of our research program. Thank you to the NBCF and the patients who contributed to our studies for supporting our efforts to provide more effective and tolerable means to treat this disease.”
- SisterMemberNo, they didn't talk about it. It's a SARM class of drug that has been used for mets I believe but it's being trialled as a replacement for Letrozole, etc. It doesn't have the joint pain side effects.
- arpieMemberAs @iserbrown says - don't be afraid of trying another AI, @Artferret. I am on my 3rd now - with only Tamoxifen left if Anastrozole/Arimidex goes belly up! I started on Letrozole & only lasted 6 weeks, the side effects were so bad. Then I had 6 months on Exemestane before reaching a similar level of continual pain. I've been on Arimidex for a month now & am not finding it TOO bad, so far! Tho the hands are still a problem, particularly the thumbs - my left thumb is the worst!
@Sister - I didn't hear the mention of enobosarm .... do you have any links to info about it? - iserbrownMember@Artferret
You may be surprised by changing AI. I have and my side effects are minimal now! We are all different however for me it has been a success! Hopefully you will find a better way as at present your comment desperately needing a break suggests that it may be the same when you go back on it! - ArtferretMember@kmakm
Hi Kate I've lasted on letrozole for 19 months before desperately needing a break. Only last night my hubby said he could see how i was suffering in the past month due to my shoulders and neck area in total meltdown. But i was determined to last till June...i nearly got there...i made the executive decision to start 4 days early. I still marvel at being able to move more easily or better still not having to think about it. My hands will take longer. My onco has offered for me to swap drug but i feel like I'm swapping one lot of side effects for another lot...not much point.
I thought you might have to restrain yourself! I think as someone else said a session on how to cope with endocrine therapy would be good but i think the strategies for coping would be better coming from people at the coalface, as the medicos don't seem to have any solid answers.
The one thing I'd like to try whilst drug free is to up my weight resistance workout (go to gym a couple more times just for that) to strengthen my body further and see if that has a positive impact when back on the drug particularly as i was no where near this fit when i started on the drug. Take care Cathxx - kmakmMember@jennyss I was around a thousand I believe.
- jennyssMemberDear @kmakm and all, Thanks very much for all the further information and analysis about the webinar - very interesting. Dear @Giovanna_BCNA, that is good that you have sent feedback to the webinar people. Further webinars will be very welcome. When you advertise events, please can you always put an 'announcements' notice on the first page of the network? A lot of network members may be like me, and go straight past the BCNA main page to get to our discussions!
I wonder how many people did take part on Thursday? Best wishes to all
