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At the beginning of all this I was told I was unlikely to need radio or chemo. Then it changed to prob need radio. Then it changed again to radio not as necessary but I may need a short course of chemo. Then today when I saw her replacement (she is now on mat leave), he said that if I were his wife or sister he would want me to do both!! Oh and on top of all this I am told that invasive lobular is most responsive to hormone suppression (which I haven’t been offered yet and is in the pipeline for after treatment.. thinking it should be sooner?...)
I now have my pathology and turns out I have gr2 invasive lobular er+ and moderately prog+ but her-. Tumour was cleared with clear margins but was close to chest wall (hence considering radio). Was 4.8mm and only found in 1 sentinel node .8mm. I was told chemo is recommended for tumours over 5mm and in 3 nodes... so I am borderline..
Surgery so far has been sentinel node biopsies followed by double mx with skin sparing and direct to implant. Right nipple was taken but found to be cancer free (I feel a little ripped off about it) and left breast tissue was completely clear of cancer, but dense tissue so hard to screen.
My concern is that I have had all cancer chopped out as far as anyone knows and that they are recommending the works because I am 40 and in good health. I want to stay in good health and am concerned about the impact of unnecessary treatment. I have also been told that invasive lobular doesn’t respond particularly well to chemo anyway...
To confuse matters further another surgeon who looked at my results but doesn’t know me (he treated my mum) said that radio is unwarranted but that I should have chemo...
Has anyone else had similar issues?","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2018-02-21T03:37:46.000-08:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:lobular","text":"lobular","time":"2025-03-25T05:02:14.103-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}},{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDI","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:treatment","text":"treatment","time":"2025-03-25T05:02:03.081-07:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:40698_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":101},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"body":"Hi I am getting mixed msgs from my breast surgeon.
At the beginning of all this I was told I was unlikely to need radio or chemo. Then it changed to prob need radio. Then it changed again to radio not as necessary but I may need a short course of chemo. Then today when I saw her replacement (she is now on mat leave), he said that if I were his wife or sister he would want me to do both!! Oh and on top of all this I am told that invasive lobular is most responsive to hormone suppression (which I haven’t been offered yet and is in the pipeline for after treatment.. thinking it should be sooner?...)
I now have my pathology and turns out I have gr2 invasive lobular er+ and moderately prog+ but her-. Tumour was cleared with clear margins but was close to chest wall (hence considering radio). Was 4.8mm and only found in 1 sentinel node .8mm. I was told chemo is recommended for tumours over 5mm and in 3 nodes... so I am borderline..
Surgery so far has been sentinel node biopsies followed by double mx with skin sparing and direct to implant. Right nipple was taken but found to be cancer free (I feel a little ripped off about it) and left breast tissue was completely clear of cancer, but dense tissue so hard to screen.
My concern is that I have had all cancer chopped out as far as anyone knows and that they are recommending the works because I am 40 and in good health. I want to stay in good health and am concerned about the impact of unnecessary treatment. I have also been told that invasive lobular doesn’t respond particularly well to chemo anyway...
To confuse matters further another surgeon who looked at my results but doesn’t know me (he treated my mum) said that radio is unwarranted but that I should have chemo...
Has anyone else had similar 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