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I went to the supermarket the other day and felt like I was having an out of body experience. I have anxiety, not helped by lack of sleep, although that is better after I spoke to a GP and refused to get off the phone until she prescribed a sleeping tablet, so I've had a few more hours sleep since Sunday. I shake, inside and out. I feel numb, scared and when I set down to doing some work, I lack confidence. So my question to you is, how did you manage when you first learned you had MBC? What did you do to help yourself? Any suggestions are warmly welcomed. 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I thought I'd get on to share that after my MBC diagnosis 2 weeks ago, I am struggling. I'm on Ribo/Fulvestrant combo for treatment and two weeks in am doing okay physically. I wish I could say the same mentally. Having read many of the posts, I'm ashamed to want to post at all, but I wanted to reach out to see how others coped mentally in those first few weeks. I have had no success getting hold of a psychologist; you have to wait weeks. I feel depressed, sad and have only been able to cry in the last few days, and usually what prompts that is when I ask my best friend how he is coping and I see how he is struggling too. When he says 'I can't fix this' my heart breaks. I went to the supermarket the other day and felt like I was having an out of body experience. I have anxiety, not helped by lack of sleep, although that is better after I spoke to a GP and refused to get off the phone until she prescribed a sleeping tablet, so I've had a few more hours sleep since Sunday. I shake, inside and out. I feel numb, scared and when I set down to doing some work, I lack confidence. So my question to you is, how did you manage when you first learned you had MBC? What did you do to help yourself? Any suggestions are warmly welcomed. Thank you sisters"},"Conversation:conversation:39012":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:39012","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:39012"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-02-23T16:35:13.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2023-02-23T16:35:13.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":22,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:39012":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:39012","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:39012_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:39012_1","lastEditTime":"2023-02-21T00:59:03.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:39016":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:39016","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:39012"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:1187"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":39016,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-newly-diagnosed"},"subject":"Re: Not doing so well","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:39016"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:39012"},"body":"Hi @LDP.
I'm so sorry to hear that you're struggling. I'm a month ahead of you - got the news in early January - no signs or symptoms. I'll be honest - I howled constantly for the next week whilst I was having all the tests. The shock was unbelievable. We then went away for a few weeks, and I spent lots of time howling and I was in a deep, black hole - I was numb and didn't want to talk to anyone. The rest of the party were skiing, and I wasn't able to ski as the slopes were too difficult for me, so I went walking most days. It wasn't the nicest 'holiday', but it gave me the space to howl, feel sad, think, do some research. It also gave me the opportunity to act on my niggles I felt about my surgeon, and thanks to this group, I found another surgeon who I'm really happy with.
I'm trying very hard to look for one good thing in the day - just one to start with. I'm trying to use all my senses - if I'm sitting in the garden, I look for pretty things, I listen to the birds tweeting or the rustle of the wind in the trees, I feel the sun or wind on my skin, I smell the perfume from the flowers or the newly mown grass, I enjoy the taste of my tea. I found it quite hard to slow down my mind, and often I don't succeed, but when I do manage to slow the mind, I do feel a bit better.
I've also felt better now that I'm settled on my surgeon and oncologist. I'm meeting with a plastic surgeon later today to discuss reconstruction options, and I've howled all morning. I'm beginning to think alot of my anxiety and howling is to do with the unknown and not being in control.
All I can say is that I took 1 minute at a time to start with, then 1 hour, then 1 day. Take 1 appointment at a time. Keep lots of notes, and write down lots of question. My surgeon and oncologist are very pleased that I'm (with my husband) taking control - effectively project managing my treatment.
My husband is also really struggling - his mum lost her battle with breast cancer last year, so this is all very raw for him. He also says that he 'feel's helpless as he can't fix it', and it breaks my heart.
I've tried meditation and mindfulness previously, with out success, but I listened to a BCNA webinar last week on Managing Stress - here's the link https://www.bcna.org.au/webcasts-new/webcast-managing-stress-and-improving-wellbeing-with-mindfulness-and-meditation/. I found it very useful and they've put some links in a pdf which I'm going to start working on.
I'm really feeling for you - please reach out here if you need support as there are so many people who can help.
Hugs
Kim
","body@stringLength":"2713","rawBody":"Hi @LDP.
I'm so sorry to hear that you're struggling. I'm a month ahead of you - got the news in early January - no signs or symptoms. I'll be honest - I howled constantly for the next week whilst I was having all the tests. The shock was unbelievable. We then went away for a few weeks, and I spent lots of time howling and I was in a deep, black hole - I was numb and didn't want to talk to anyone. The rest of the party were skiing, and I wasn't able to ski as the slopes were too difficult for me, so I went walking most days. It wasn't the nicest 'holiday', but it gave me the space to howl, feel sad, think, do some research. It also gave me the opportunity to act on my niggles I felt about my surgeon, and thanks to this group, I found another surgeon who I'm really happy with.
I'm trying very hard to look for one good thing in the day - just one to start with. I'm trying to use all my senses - if I'm sitting in the garden, I look for pretty things, I listen to the birds tweeting or the rustle of the wind in the trees, I feel the sun or wind on my skin, I smell the perfume from the flowers or the newly mown grass, I enjoy the taste of my tea. I found it quite hard to slow down my mind, and often I don't succeed, but when I do manage to slow the mind, I do feel a bit better.
I've also felt better now that I'm settled on my surgeon and oncologist. I'm meeting with a plastic surgeon later today to discuss reconstruction options, and I've howled all morning. I'm beginning to think alot of my anxiety and howling is to do with the unknown and not being in control.
All I can say is that I took 1 minute at a time to start with, then 1 hour, then 1 day. Take 1 appointment at a time. Keep lots of notes, and write down lots of question. My surgeon and oncologist are very pleased that I'm (with my husband) taking control - effectively project managing my treatment.
My husband is also really struggling - his mum lost her battle with breast cancer last year, so this is all very raw for him. He also says that he 'feel's helpless as he can't fix it', and it breaks my heart.
I've tried meditation and mindfulness previously, with out success, but I listened to a BCNA webinar last week on Managing Stress - here's the link https://www.bcna.org.au/webcasts-new/webcast-managing-stress-and-improving-wellbeing-with-mindfulness-and-meditation/. I found it very useful and they've put some links in a pdf which I'm going to start working on.
I'm really feeling for you - please reach out here if you need support as there are so many people who can help.
Hugs
Kim
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