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Pearl
9 years agoMember
Dairy products query??
Hi..I'm new to this site, so please excuse any mistakes!! I'm 62 and I was diagnosed with Hormone Receptive Breast Cancer last July, had 2 surgeries which included nipple removal and lymph gland removal on my right side. Following that, I had 6 rounds of Chemo and 30 zaps of radiation. What I want to know is ....opinions on Dairy products being possible causes of hormone receptive cancer. I seem to see a lot about this in news lately. Currently I have replaced Dairy with soy, not a problem for me as I am in a family that has 2 vegans so I get used to their recipes etc. Now I also read that soy can cause breast cancer too. Does anyone actually know some real facts about this subject, and can help me with my query?
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- melclarityMember@Zoffiel You know every single post I read of yours am glued and in stitches half the time! Your perspective, attitude and deliverance is impeccable. I think you should write a book! Id love to read it! :)
Yeah, blah blah blah, anyone tries to tell me about whats on the naughty list this week, I shutdown straight away...lalalalalala Im not listening. Complete nonsense! and we all know because of the diversity of every single one of us who got BC and the complexity of our backgrounds...x - brightspaceMemberHi everyone some thoughtful comments ...iam a home economist food tech nutritionist from way back so thankyou for input.Moderation variety high calcium low fat have been the mantra!
What does need to be clarified is the term estrogen rich products. While you can enjoy a variety of vegan foods it is best to not rely on products which are estrogen dense or add soybean oil.
For me i have MBc hormone positive...have been rereading product labels eg marinated vegetables now relace olive with soya oil . - Brenda5MemberSo what's different to 100 years ago? Well, we all hurtle along in cars at 100kmph. We have power lines into our houses. We have mobile phones and radio waves everywhere. We spray roundup on weeds. Many farmers DO get cancers from sprays which is seldom highlighted. Its just the age we live in. Not much we can do about it.
- iserbrownMemberIt is what it is! For me the hormones worked overtime and here I am a pink lady on the BCNA forum, who would've thought! Learning all sorts of terminologies that I had no knowledge or need for prior!
I'm reading on here that some have digestive troubles, look to gluten free products et cetera Understand it, get it!
For me I have always believed in a balanced diet, it is how I was brought up and taught through Tech school, Home Economics (now I'm showing my age), something from each food group everyday!
Yes we get the occasional cold, yes we have aches and pains, mainly mechanical as we age.
Can't jump that fence anymore, need to carry the fire wood in smaller armfuls, more trips should be better for the legs, Yes/No!. Depriving myself of something or drinking green muck at this stage is a little too late if that is a preventer!!
Like@Afraser said I suppose next week eggs will be back on the naughty list again!
Goodness! I do sound cranky! sorry, needed to vent! - ZoffielMemberYou'll go nuts if you look at every theory about what causes, or triggers, breast cancer. I've had well meaning, and not so benign, suggestions about what I could have done, or not done, to avoid the predicament I am in. Most of it is bullshit and some is plain malicious.
I'd talk to your Onc about soy, the jury is still out regarding its effects on hormone receptive cancers, but, really, how much of the stuff are you going to consume? Most of these studies look at what happens to mice if you feed them a steady diet, or sit them in a pool of, or make them breath nothing but ***insert suspected carcinogens***
Common sense says that eating well and looking after yourself should help. Practical experience says that there is no guarantee you will be safe. Do what feels right for you. - AfraserMemberI was told milk caused breast cancer by a nurse as I was waiting outside theatre for my mastectomy! One of the very few unhelpful comments from the nursing profession. Both my oncologist and surgeon were aware of a report a year or so ago about possible increases in recurrence in women on full fat dairy in their diets. The study has some relatively large gaps, so of interest but not definitive. There was no discernible increase in women on low fat dairy, so as I had been drinking low fat milk for years I have continued to do so but have cut down on cheese and cream. Both my medicos advocate a varied diet in moderation and as I am on Femara, my oncologist is keen to keep my calcium intake up, so I take a supplement as well. For those on oestrogen inhibitors, soy may not be the best alternative as it is quite rich in oestrogen, but there are varying views. Hard to keep up!! Next week, someone will decree that eggs are bad for you again.......
- OMG I wish we could pinpoint the cancer causer! I suspect IVF drugs and HRT may have kicked me off but who knows.
Like lots of others I try to eat healthy food, low fat, lots of fruit and veggies, not much alcohol, exercise. It doesn't make any difference, this horrible disease doesn't discriminate! - TwiggyjumpsMemberSometimes I think it came from cleaning chemicals. I use white king a lot to wash and scrub the bathrooms. The smell I could taste. Then again there's the broadleaf sprays on the paddocks like Amicide or Roundup. Used a mask but your skin can still absorb it. But then again farmers have been using it for years. I believe some of these chemicals are imported unregulated from China where DDT is still used apparently. Anyway who knows.
- PearlMemberThankyou everyone for your helpful info. And thanks for making me welcome at this site!!