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arpie
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BCNA's Helpline refocus - some changes being made to the Helpline
BCNA's Helpline refocus
I received this email last night and assume that all members received it - but just in case some haven't received it, I'll put it here for everyone to read and comment on, if you like .....
I am a little perplexed that a couple of valuable assets to our members will be removed from the Helpline & Counselling Services - specifically the Cancer Nurse on the Help line & the Metastatic Breast Cancer Counselling Services. I really think the members should have been canvassed (by way of a poll) to determine their feelings on the matter - as they are the ones who will be affected by it.
I believe that both of these services are a vital part of the BCNA support for it's members - and that members would feel much more comfortable in ringing 'our' helpline than being referred to the Cancer Council or McGrath Foundation - particularly those with a recent Mets diagnosis.
What do you think?
Dear Arpie
In order to be best positioned to deliver on the vision outlined in our Strategic Plan, BCNA went through an organisational redesign in March 2021. As part of this process, we have been consulting with our BCNA Helpline team in recent months about a new team structure which repositions the Helpline at the centre of our member support services.
During the consultation period, we spoke to a small group of consumer representatives to get their insight and feedback on the proposed changes and how they impact people with breast cancer who contact us for information and support through the Helpline. We shared with them that a recent review identified an important new role for our Helpline team in delivering a broader set of information and navigational services, built on the knowledge gained from speaking to our network on the phone.
The review also identified that by having a cancer nurse on the Helpline, we were duplicating services provided by other organisations, including McGrath Foundation and Cancer Council. As a result, we will no longer have cancer nurses available on the BCNA Helpline but will instead refer and support callers in connecting to a breast care nurse or obtaining advice and information from health professionals available via Cancer Council's 13 11 20 information and support service.
Our existing Helpline team will broaden their focus by becoming Member Support Officers. They will focus on ensuring the BCNA Helpline remains the number one place to contact if you have questions and issues about breast cancer, while also individually specialising in one of our key member functions - supporting access to My Journey, My Care Kit program, health professional onboarding and BCNA Online Network.
We have worked closely with McGrath Foundation, Cancer Council, and other partners in recent weeks to ensure that we can seamlessly refer BCNA callers to a health professional when required. As you may know, working collaboratively with our partners in the sector has become an important part of how we work, with the wellbeing of people with breast cancer our number one, shared concern.
As part of these changes, BCNA will also no longer offer Metastatic Breast Cancer Counselling Services and will now refer people to the appropriate counselling service option depending on their needs and requirements. Our engagement with BCNA’s Metastatic Breast Cancer Advisory Group will provide a regular mechanism to discuss and review any impacts identified and help ensure appropriate solutions are considered.
I am sure you may have some views you would like to put forward on these changes, which will come into effect in mid-July. The consumer representatives we have spoken to so far have been open in their feedback which has been positive, agreeing that the changes are both logical and will reduce some confusing duplication for people with breast cancer.
However, we are determined to work closely with our network and members to make sure the refocus works for you, and we will continuously evaluate the impact of the new arrangements. Please contact us with any queries or suggestions on
1800 500 258 or email [email protected]
I am confident that the new arrangements will help to strengthen and expand the central role BCNA plays in providing compassionate and practical support, information, and resources for everyone affected by breast cancer.
We have always been proud of our ability to help people navigate their way to everything from peer support to advice to knowledge, and our suite of support resources is now in great shape to fulfil many of those needs. My Journey, for instance, is now well-utilised as an app, with tailored and curated information to your particular breast cancer type. The Symptom Tracker is a highly valued tool and is a new feature and an example that helps members track short and long term side effects and inform consultation with your treatment teams.
Webcasts, podcasts, and direct email to BCNA have all become popular and important channels for members to communicate with us and each other, and health professionals are also fully engaged through our health professional onboarding program.
Our Helpline team - now the Member Support team - will be fully involved in every aspect of supporting and developing these resources, to ensure they are consistently responsive to people’s needs and help people with breast cancer to explore, understand and share their journey.
Please do not hesitate to get in touch with me or your preferred BCNA contact to discuss the Helpline changes.
Yours sincerely,
Kirsten Pilatti
CEO
135 Replies
- Exactly @arpie .. but the penny hasn't dropped yet. :)
- arpieMemberummmm - I think that is what this whole post is about @Keeping_positive1 - and has been requested on numerous members' replies, including 2-3 times by me!
- AllyJayMember@Zoffiel..can I wear my now completed knitted beanie?
- FLCloverMember@Zoffiel 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
- I suggest some lobbying be done by BCNA to once again gain funding to employ a breast care nurse!
- ZoffielMemberYep @AllyJay Old women who use coarse language and won't quietly toe the party line must be silenced. Or separated so they don't form a naughty knitter gang and get in the way of progress.
Gawd (probably get a smack for that too) anyone who was around a few years would remember when some of the more robust contributors were regulars. It was just like being out in real society where some people swore or had 'inappropriate' opinions. Imagine that? The mods of the time were a little less inclined to intervene unless someone was getting attacked. The old 'scroll on' mantra was oft repeated.
Anyway, those who were involved with the Great Beacon Battle might need to put their combat knickerbockers back on for a while. New warriors welcome. No thongs or sexy undies, please, we must all pretend to be ladies. - June1952MemberAs a former member said to me yesterday "you would not allow the auto receptionist to service your car and you would not allow a mechanic to operate on you so why the heck would BCNA think it acceptable for administrators to deal with helpline calls and then simply pass them off". I agreed with her !
Not tech savvy so a zoom call is out for many I know, including me. As someone said, they are trying to put this under the radar and will not give substantive answers to members. Looking at the Board ... admin focus ..... - FLCloverMemberHmmm @AllyJay I’ve never found any of your posts to be ‘offensive, hateful, obscene’ etc. I find them refreshing. But you’re a fighter for the truth, and those ppl are not much appreciated in places like these. I know this from experience.
- arpieMemberVery eloquently re-said, @zoffiel
Well said @Cath62 and @Julez1958 .... BRILLIANT IDEA - hopefully a Zoom meeting can be arranged (even tho not everyone would be able to attend Zoom as not being tech savvy or having the correct equipment.) Those people can still have one on one chats with @Kirsten_BCNA via phone, email or even PM.
We would need a 2hr slot, I reckon for everyone to 'have their say' as individually, we would just be repeating ourselves ..... It would also be much more time efficient for Kirsten, than having individual conversations with everyone over a number of days.
I think that Zoom is really the only way of us all 'getting together' to discuss the issue as a group - as really should have happened prior to the announcement, given the MOMENTOUS effect that this decision was going to have on us, (and obviously has!) .... as the recipients of the now missing services.
The meeting can also be recorded and made available to other members upon request -- or better still, made available to everyone with an online link, so that they can see and hear the arguments for & against ..... but mainly WHY!!!
I believe Zoom will be the best way to 'see' the depths of the emotions and the upset that this decision has caused in our members and to have our chance to say what we believe was a badly thought out decision.
We can also 'edit our name' on Zoom - so that it is our 'forum name' to protect our real names, if so desired - and helps people put 'forum names' to our faces.
I am sure Kirsten & the others had NO IDEA the angst that this decision would have on our members. It was purely a $ thing.
Even if ONE of the services was reinstated in a timely manner (I am guessing the Breast Cancer Nurse would be the logical one, if we were able to get someone of the calibre of Giovanna or Rosie back ....) as they would be well qualified to cover the Mets side of things too until the Mets Counsellor can be reinstated as well. (I am not wanting to downplay the urgent need of a Mets Counselling service either - just that in the short term, we may need to reach a compromise to be able to move forward as a group.) :(
Take care everyone xx - AllyJayMemberOooh @Zoffiel...did you get put into the naughty corner ? I got castigated recently too and a comment I made was censored for the exact reasons you stated above. Apparently I breached the code of quote "anything harmful, threatening, abusive, hateful, offensive, discriminatory, defamatory or obscene". There was nary an Anglo Saxon expletive in my comment, it was my previously used analogy of a remaining breast being perceived as being as much a threat as a next door neighbour who was a "you know what" offender. Evidently my highly.... all of the above, comment had to be made soft and fluffy. I told them to remove the whole thing. I seriously wonder if this forum is going to continue, or if it's already on the cards to be scrapped. Perhaps another cost cutting measure... hmmm...save a few bucks on technical support and such...shut up the old biddies who won't just get back to their knitting...?