Where is the place for blokes to post on here please @traveltext as I can’t see it in groups. How do they market bc and in particular male bc in the US as fit could help a movement to recalibrate the image in Australia? I guess it goes without saying Pink Lady and Field of Women aren’t helpful - there must be a way to adapt both to reflect reality without destroying the goodwill embraced in current branding ie small steps forward rather than this constant overlooking the obvious. If possible eventually a new brand might be accepted if edged forward a little incorporating old and new branding.