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11 years ago

My Surgeon Rocks

It's 8.00pm on a Thursday night and my phone rings. It's my surgeon letting me know that today's CT scan of my brain was clear. I now officially have no signs of metastatic cancer. Woohooo!

She then spends half an hour talking about my prognosis, my surgery and my decisions.

She has confirmed that this type of local recurrence is very rare. She's only seen it once before and that was with someone that had significant lymph node invasion (and I had none). She's shocked.

We talked about the multidisciplinary team that she is a part of and how they all agreed that mastectomy was the best option. I don't know if multidisciplinary teams are in operation everywhere else but what an excellent way to support difficult decision making by caring professionals. Apart from giving me greater confidence in my surgeon's recommendations, it must be so much better for them to be able to discuss cases with each other. Kylie tells me they don't always agree. That's a healthy sign.

I am overjoyed to report that my mitotic rate is the same; 20 over 10 fields. This matters because it means that the cancer hasn't mutated into something more aggressive. It's likely I have 'radiotherapy resistant tissue' which just gives me one more reason to have it removed.

I was concerned that there may be some argument for retaining the healthy breast. Perhaps having some breast tissue to catch or attract any travelling cancer cells would help to avoid it metastasising in another part of my body. Kylie assures me this is not the case. It's likely given my lack of node involvement that this cancer hasn't figured out how to grow in anything other than breast tissue. No breast tissue should, therefore, equal no more cancer.

There's an option to keep the healthy breast. It turns out that it's rare for cancer to spread to the second breast and it usually occurs where there's been clearance of lymph nodes and the remaining lymphatic system is draining to the healthy breast. That's not my situation. Even so, I'd like it removed. Psychologically, I will always be worried about recurrence. I'd have to keep having mammograms and ultrasounds. I'd also have one very large breast. Aesthetically and physiologically I think I'd rather just have a smooth chest.

I'd also like to avoid the possibility of having to have the second breast removed at a later time, remote though that possibility may be.

Kylie has arranged an appointment for me tomorrow with a breast reconstruction surgeon. Another brilliant doctor. I'm reasonably sure that I don't want reconstruction. There are lots of reasons. I'm an active person. I love my yoga and my gardening, and my kayaking. The thought of not being able to do these for several months is distressing. Kylie tells me that I can probably be back to gentle yoga in three weeks if I don't have reconstruction. Full recovery from reconstruction takes about six months.

I'm also squeamish about the idea of cutting away a flap of skin, fat and muscle from my tummy and moving it up to my chest. Eeew. This is clever stuff and has given many women a very happy result. I'm not knocking it. I just don't think it's for me. I like my tummy. Yes, it's a little bit rounded and soft but I like it that way. I can't have silicone implants after having radiotherapy so using another part of my body to make 'breast mounds' would be my only option. The procedure can be done at the same time as a mastectomy and the whole of this takes ten or eleven hours. 

I can honestly say that not having breasts isn't going to be devastating for me. I will be sad. I have lovely breasts and I will miss them. But one of them is trying to kill me.

I talked it over with my amazing husband, Graham.  Of course he's all for saving my life and going ahead with a mastectomy. No question. He's not keen on reconstruction either. I think he put it well. "Have the least surgery you can." I'm still going to see the specialist because I don't think you can have too much information in a situation like this (also Graham's thinking). I'm allowing for the possibility that I might change my mind in the future. A mastectomy now doesn't close the door on reconstruction later. Also, from Kylie's description, this doctor is the kind of woman I like to spend time with. She's blunt, down to earth and plain speaking.

I'm tentatively booked in for a bilateral mastectomy on the 8th of August. I don't think I'll change my mind about reconstruction tomorrow but we'll see.

Meanwhile I'm overwhelmed with gratitude for my beautiful surgeon who takes time out from her husband and her three little children to spend half an hour talking on the phone to me.

And no charge for that service by the way.

Who does that?

Now if only I could type her name without thinking of hot pants and mirror balls.

:)

  • Another step forward ... so pleased for you Meg. And to have thoughtful medical staff caring for you at a time when another sleepless night is one too many - is a blessing.

    Re:- Multidisciplinary Team (aka MDT) ... I live in far north Qld, and my Breast Cancer Care Nurse often refers to the MDT suggested this and discussed that - and I too found it most reasuring to learn.  There is literally a round table discussion, with my results / images  etc, passed around and options are evaluated and debated, with the demography of the patient paramount (ie. I am 49 yrs of age, live 1.5km from hospital, have 3 young children etc etc).  The treatment and consideration I have received as a BC patient is overwhelmingly positive .... and it appears that you are receiving the same - wonderful !

    I am counting the sleeps until my bilateral mastectomy on 30 July ... and your operation date is not far away either.  All the very best x

  • Another step forward ... so pleased for you Meg. And to have thoughtful medical staff caring for you at a time when another sleepless night is one too many - is a blessing.

    Re:- Multidisciplinary Team (aka MDT) ... I live in far north Qld, and my Breast Cancer Care Nurse often refers to the MDT suggested this and discussed that - and I too found it most reasuring to learn.  There is literally a round table discussion, with my results / images  etc, passed around and options are evaluated and debated, with the demography of the patient paramount (ie. I am 49 yrs of age, live 1.5km from hospital, have 3 young children etc etc).  The treatment and consideration I have received as a BC patient is overwhelmingly positive .... and it appears that you are receiving the same - wonderful !

    I am counting the sleeps until my bilateral mastectomy on 30 July ... and your operation date is not far away either.  All the very best x

  • Such a relief, Meg - how lovely of her to ring you after hours and talk.  Also good that she could put your mind at rest regarding TNBC liking breast tissue - it just gives you more options.  I like Robyn's friend's comment - flat and free! - very true, and you can wear them when you need to with no hassles. I could feel the relief coming off the page!!  Very happy for you!   Michelle xx

  • Such a relief, Meg - how lovely of her to ring you after hours and talk.  Also good that she could put your mind at rest regarding TNBC liking breast tissue - it just gives you more options.  I like Robyn's friend's comment - flat and free! - very true, and you can wear them when you need to with no hassles. I could feel the relief coming off the page!!  Very happy for you!   Michelle xx

  • All great news!What a roller coaster for u the last few days!I met a lady at RPA not long ago who had a bilateral. She was 59.Same as me. She was so pleased with her choice not to have reconstruction,Flat and free, she calls it:) I took 3 weeks to totally get over my single mastectomy. You sound as though u almost have your mind made up, so all the best with whatever you do. Cheers xxxRobyn
  • I love the fact that in the very serious business of Breast Cancer we can all still have a laugh, Kylie Minogue is a very beautiful woman and its sounds like your surgeon is beautiful, on the insde at least.

    During my treatments (after inital surgery) when I have my CT scans they found a tumour on my left kidney, my oncologist gave my husband and I the news and they promptly sent me for further testing to see exactly what it was, my oncologist rang me when those results came in so I wasn't waiting around and worried.

    I too have a multidisiplinary team and yes they are wonderful all working together to make my life easier. When I see my uroligist he checks with my onc as to what tests I may need so that they do not double up.

    Take care

    Donna

  • I love the fact that in the very serious business of Breast Cancer we can all still have a laugh, Kylie Minogue is a very beautiful woman and its sounds like your surgeon is beautiful, on the insde at least.

    During my treatments (after inital surgery) when I have my CT scans they found a tumour on my left kidney, my oncologist gave my husband and I the news and they promptly sent me for further testing to see exactly what it was, my oncologist rang me when those results came in so I wasn't waiting around and worried.

    I too have a multidisiplinary team and yes they are wonderful all working together to make my life easier. When I see my uroligist he checks with my onc as to what tests I may need so that they do not double up.

    Take care

    Donna

  • BAAAHAAA Your last sentence made me laugh! I now have visions of Kylie Minogue performing your surgery. On a serious note though, what a lovely lady your surgeon is. I think you and I have the same thing!!! My surgeon was dumbfounded with my recurrence so soon after finishing chemo and radiation. I did have one positive lymph node first time...with the next 7 clear. Another 6 clear nodes after 2nd surgery. He kept saying how could this happen after all that radiation to your breast only 6 months ago? We just must be a bit special. You are right about the reconstruction. It's not even something you need to think about right now if you don't want to. As the Dr you see tomorrow will tell you lots of women have delayed reconstructions. (Me being one). You seem pretty clear that you don't want reconstruction, and your recovery should be faster because of that. Seeing the reconstructive surgeon should be helpful, whatever you choose. As I think you have said, knowledge is power. We are all different, but to give you an idea of your recovery, I work with a lady who has just come back to work part-time after a double mastectomy 3 1/2 weeks ago. She is doing really well. I was back at work 1 month after my single mastectomy. It only took me that long as I had to have my first chemo in between. My recovery from my mastectomy was much easier than the lumpectomy! I wish you all the best in the next couple of weeks and with your upcoming decisions and surgery. Another big cyber hug coming your way. Paula (nearly 3 1/2 years post second TNBC diagnosis)
  • BAAAHAAA Your last sentence made me laugh! I now have visions of Kylie Minogue performing your surgery. On a serious note though, what a lovely lady your surgeon is. I think you and I have the same thing!!! My surgeon was dumbfounded with my recurrence so soon after finishing chemo and radiation. I did have one positive lymph node first time...with the next 7 clear. Another 6 clear nodes after 2nd surgery. He kept saying how could this happen after all that radiation to your breast only 6 months ago? We just must be a bit special. You are right about the reconstruction. It's not even something you need to think about right now if you don't want to. As the Dr you see tomorrow will tell you lots of women have delayed reconstructions. (Me being one). You seem pretty clear that you don't want reconstruction, and your recovery should be faster because of that. Seeing the reconstructive surgeon should be helpful, whatever you choose. As I think you have said, knowledge is power. We are all different, but to give you an idea of your recovery, I work with a lady who has just come back to work part-time after a double mastectomy 3 1/2 weeks ago. She is doing really well. I was back at work 1 month after my single mastectomy. It only took me that long as I had to have my first chemo in between. My recovery from my mastectomy was much easier than the lumpectomy! I wish you all the best in the next couple of weeks and with your upcoming decisions and surgery. Another big cyber hug coming your way. Paula (nearly 3 1/2 years post second TNBC diagnosis)