Manufactured in England, the water based moisturiser is the first certified organic product put on the NHS in England available on script from doctor. Unfortunately, we don't have vaginal moisturises available on script in Australia. From what I have been advised from BCNA Policy they do not believe worth pursuing an application for vaginal moisturisers to be made available on script here in Australia. For anyone suffering vaginal atrophy and unable to treat with estrogen pessaries/creams (on script) I suggest you have a look at these products. They cannot reverse vaginal atrophy the same as estrogen but some ladies on this site have found they definitely help matters. Vaginal moisturisers are best used every 2nd or third day, the pre-filled applicators can be very expensive so if you can afford them these products are worth a try (I think they have free samples). Just check out the site. Always remember to run list of ingredients past your doctor.https://www.yesyesyes.org/breastcancer/For further information this is an article written by Susi Lennox, co-founder of Yes which was published in a Newsletter for the charity, Cancer Options UK www.canceroptions.co.uk.You will also find some extensive feedback from customers from all over the world on their testimonial page https://www.yesyesyes.org/why-yes/customer-expert-testimonials/?cat=7I buy direct from Yes as I think it cheaper however if looking to buy in Australia you may have some luck from the following companies: http://www.greenorganics.com.au/https://organictrader.com.au/catalogue/

Hi Suzie, just wanted to add that I've used Yes as well and it is a great product, it's a shame it's not more readily available here. Important discussion though as it is an issue that plagues many of us xx

Dear SuzieI lead the Policy Team at BCNA. I am sorry you don't feel we are supporting you on this issue. BCNA is very aware of the challenges in sexual wellbeing for some women as a result of breast cancer treatments. In 2011 BCNA commissioned a university researcher to undertake research with women and health professionals regarding sexual wellbeing and breast cancer. This research resulted in our booklet Breast cancer and sexual wellbeing, which is currently being updated and reprinted. You can read the research report on our website. We also write about this issue in The Beacon from time to time, most recently in the last edition as the Ask the Expert article.With regards to getting YES on the PBS, BCNA is not able to make a submission to the PBAC (the authority that assesses applications for drugs to be added to the PBS and makes recommendations to the Government). Applications require detailed evidence of the safety and effectiveness of products and how they compare with other similar products already available on the Australian market. They require results from clinical trials to provide this evidence. BCNA has never made an application to the PBAC, although we frequently provide submissions in support of medicines and products for which an application is made by the manufacturer or Australian distributer. YES is available to buy in Australia at around the same cost it would be if it was subsidised by the Government through the PBS. The current script fee for non-concession patients in 2017 is $38.80. YES is available in Australia from around $20 - $50.I hope this helps to explain our situation. I am happy to talk to you about this if you would like to call our office on 1800 500 258 and ask for me.Kathy

Hi Kathy. I apologise, I only mentioned the matter had been raised with BCNA so it would not be re-raised. When I discovered Yes organic products were listed on England's NHS available on script I thought why not us? Not knowing where to turn I asked if BCNA could have general discussion around it at next meeting (April?) with breast cancer medico's so medical profession were at least aware of it and they could offer their views. And if the product could be readily available in Aust. I can't remember asking if BCNA would make submissions to PBAC. I appreciate the work BCNA did researching cost of our general prescriptions in Australia. After quickly perusing England's NHS site they have a very generous scheme over there. Prescriptions are free for anyone over 60 so explains the cost/benefit of having these products available on script in England. It would have been nice to have had some kind of Govt subsidy here but happy to put this discussion to bed.Once again thank you for all your hard work.Sue

Ladies, I have used many products and find YES by far the most superior. It is a bit pricy but if you buy in bulk it is a bit cheaper. It is way cheaper and a far superior product (in my opinion)than replens. They have a new product called VM and I think it is amazing.Thanks Susie and the policy team for all your efforts helping women find these products.Paula x

Hi Paula, I will check out VM. I found Replens a terrible product which is why I went looking overseas in the first place. You have to be careful using products like Replens as they contain parabens. Suex

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suzieq
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9 years ago
I have been re-reading through my posts and realised I didn't give access to article written by Susi Lennox, co-founder of Yes which was published in a Newsletter for the charity, Cancer Options UK Name of article Sexual Survivorship and Yes for Cancer Options

It is a good read and I have attached.
suzieq
Member
9 years ago
Hi soldier Crab. I already have a response from Yes. I have copied and pasted it below for you.

In a nutshell ingredients are clearly displayed on Yes OB tubes so anyone with a bee allergy who may be worried about bees wax can read for themselves.. Yes OB in pre-filled applicators do not contain bees wax. Here is their response to me.

Hi Sue
How encouraging that the lady found some YES in her local chemist!
Well this is a completely new one for us! Firstly it is important to specify that only the YES OB in tubes contains Bees Wax (organic). YES OB in Applicators contains no Bees Wax. We have never heard of any correlation between an allergy to bee stings and the topical application of a product containing Bees Wax. We would imagine that anyone with a severe allergy would always read the ingredients list and be acutely aware of what they can and cannot tolerate.
The only reason we know of for alerting customers to the presence of Bees Wax, is for Vegans who prefer no to use anything that has any association with animal derivatives. All our water based products and YES OB in Applicators are suitable for Vegans.
I hope this is helpful but it may be possible that there is a regulation that we are not aware of in Australia to display a warning for products containing Bees Wax.

Kind regards
suzieq
Member
9 years ago
Thought you might like to look at this comparison chart: You will note Sylk contains Glycerine and Grapefruit Seed Extract which is classed as a Paraben. YES make a statement in their ingredients page that Yes will never use Grapeseed Extract and go on to explain why. You might want to check out. Suex
suzieq
Member
9 years ago
Pelvic Floor Exercise is a great site Soldier Crab. Good to know Yes is getting profiled here in Aust.

The water based moisturisers are best to keep tissues plump and healthy and I use pre-filled applicators for that as it gets the moisturiser to where it needs to be.

I also purchaed the pre-filled oil based applicators which are brilliant for intimacy.

I know pre-filled applicators are expensive but the products need to be inserted to be effective.

Yes advised there are adaptors that fit perfectly on the tubes that extract the product easily and can then be inserted. I can't remember where they said they were available as I had already purchased enough pre-filled applicators and didn't need it.

I understand you don't like the products and prefer Sylk but thank you for all your thoughtful research. Much appreciated. Especially good was finding pelvic floor exercise site. Thanks Suex
SoldierCrab
Member
9 years ago
thanks @suzieq for your research also it helps us to all make informed choices.
SoldierCrab
Member
9 years ago
some more
https://www.pelvicfloorexercise.com.au/shop/womens-mens/yes-wb-organic-lubricant-100ml
suzieq
Member
9 years ago
Have had another think about it. Not all their products are listed on the NHS - just the water based moisturiser I think. Perhaps they may need to list their ingredients on the packaging. I have sent them off an email and await their response.

Suex
suzieq
Member
9 years ago
Thanks for all your homework. It may still be cheaper buying direct from England at the moment. Plus I wouldn't imagine stockists would have full range of all products and would have to make special orders anyway. That may change in the future.

Anyone with serious allergies would have to read ingredient lists of everything they purchased beforehand. Same with anyone with nut allergies. What is good about Yes site in england is it has complete list of all ingredients which I printed out and gave to my GP who gave all thumbs up. After Breast Cancer I don't take any risks at all as there are lots of things in nature that can turn into estrogen in the body.

Getting organic certification and listed on the NHS in Englad is a big deal for any product. It would have had to go through rigorous trials and testing. I might let Yes know what you said and get back with their response.

In the meantime be careful using Sylk. It was removed from Australian shelves because it claimed to be organic when it contains parabens so use sparingly.

Cheers
Sue
SoldierCrab
Member
9 years ago
@suzieq
http://www.shopnaturally.com.au/yes-lubricant.html ;
https://www.lovehoney.com.au/brands/yes/
http://www.greenorganics.com.au/green-organic-yes-organic-lubricant-products.php
https://www.mimideluxe.com/au/yes-organic-water-based-lubricant-125ml

that is some places in OZ we can get yes.
Be aware that one of the products contains Bees Wax if you are allergic to bee stings ..... something my chemist realised and had to put a sign on the products.
suzieq
Member
9 years ago
That's great cranky granny. I love your name!! I was a cranky granny too. hehehehe!

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