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Lynda01
9 years agoMember
Chemo honeymoon is over
I'm writing on behalf of my amazing mum - she was diagnosed with invasive lobular breast cancer at 71. She has a mammogram every year but her specialist thinks her cancer has likely been there for at least three years - it couldn't be detected on mammogram or ultrasound and was only found after an MRI and because of a determined doctor who didn't like the feel of her breast. We're still in shock because it was 9cm and in 5 of 14 lymph nodes and we have no family history. She's had a mastectomy already and was petrified of chemo but here we are 1 week into 4 rounds of AC and 12 then of taxol. She was doing so well after chemo last Monday but all her medication for nausea stopped yesterday and now she is so ill with indigestion, nausea and tiredness. She's also been hallucinating at night after stopping the atavin 2 days ago. Her bladder also can't hold all the water she needs to drink. Just wondering if anyone has had similar experiences - does the nausea normally last for long? She has to start antibiotics in two days and is worried how she'll do that as they usually make her really crook too! Are there any tips for what to offer her to eat also?
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- primekMemberI needed regular nexium morning and night for my gut and sometimes zantac in between. It is really hard going.
- ShareMember
Hi @Lynda1, I too wanted to check and see how things are going - not just with you but your Mum also.
I am sure that she feels like a tsunami has hit her - with unfortunate things coming in waves.
Looking through the previous posts, I noticed the reference to ginger.
I found that my hairdresser (who was pregnant at the time) recommended ginger lollies that are stocked in pharmacies. I believe it is made by the Buderim ginger company.
I saw it available & purchased it at several pharmacies in Sydney. They dissolve in your mouth and help quell the nausea. They were helpful following radiotherapy and my stint in hospital.
Here is the link -
http://www.buderimginger.com/products/ginger-bears-190g ;
My very best wishes to you & your Mum. xxx
- Ann-MarieMemberHi @Lynda01, I just wanted to jump in to see how you were doing? You are doing such an amazing job supporting your mum, I just wanted to make sure that you have the support you need as well. Let us know if you need anything ~Ann-Marie
- Lynda01MemberThanks so much ladies. It's been an interesting journey - my mum is now at the end of her second treatment and what a rollercoaster ride it's been. She developed cellulitis in her leg after brushing against the side of her bed - not breaking the skin - and just rubbing the spot - apparently it's enough to transfer bacteria from your hand through your skin. She came good at the end of the third week after her first chemo despite having to take an extra course of Keflex to deal with the cellulitis. The second round has not been so much fun. We're at the end of the second week and last friday it all went to hell in a hand basket as she developed deep vein thrombosis! Two clots in her left leg. She nearly lost her way mentally upon hearing she would have to inject herself twice a day. Plus her gut is giving her a lot of trouble - only today at the end of the third week is the foul taste at the back of her throat abating. She still feels yuk in the stomach though - not nauseous but just off. I'm imagining the third and fourth rounds beginning Monday will see things deteriorate further - is that right? She is my absolute inspiration - I'm so proud of her and the last week has brought me to the brink wondering how much she can take. Some days its so hard to watch the toll this treatment takes on someone you love. Thank you for just being there to listen and provide support. It can be a really lonely journey x
- primekMemberI needed movicol for constipation as 2 x strongest coloxyl twice a day didn't help. The mvichol was wndrous.. drink morning and night and all good.
- melclarityMemberHi Lynda!
Goodness! thats awful news! Well Chemo is NO PICNIC! I can say I was allergic to Maxolon anti nausea so Ativan was the best thing I could use...so she can use that daily as needed, I wouldnt stop if it helps. Constipation? Coloxyl tablets, the hospitals will recommend that above everything, they were the most gentle and oh boy helped the most. Heartburn? indigestion uuugh Nexium...dont both with Mylanta or Gaviscon, let the Team know everything!!! with all the right meds in place she will be comfortable. Tell her to rinse her mouth daily with salt water, as unfortunately ulcers will happen if they get bad Kennalog a cortisone paste is great at night! So hard to drink water feeling ill, I couldnt hydrate at all and was put in hospital after each infusion for a few days to hydrate. So there are ways around it, keep talking with your team!
Melinda xo - primekMemberHopefully your Mum will skeep better once of the dexamethasone. I found I never slept the day before or a couple of days after it properly. Just spent my days dozing. But the dexamethasone really helped the nausea, mine was extended to 4 days at reducing doses. Made a huge difference. I also took stemitil and ondasetron. The stemitil regularly and the ondasetron 1/2 before meals. Seems a lot but it worked. Maxalon made me restless. I alsi foubd a trick with the ondasetron, I'd put a sugarless mint on my tongue before I put the wafer as I detested the taste...but it was extremly effective. Keep up the salt water mouth washes and hope the next round is kinder. Kath x
- SoldierCrabMember@Lynda01
I just realised none of us have suggested Ginger if your mum likes Ginger ... give her ginger ale/beer or eating ginger biscuits or those crystalised gingers ... I also made smoothies ....
IF she gets thrush ..... the best thing for mine was COKE yes after meds from the team and mouth washes etc nothing was working a friend suggested a bottle of coke 300ml said it dealt with it for her.... Well lo and behold kids got me bottle as I drank it I could literally feel the thrush being stripped off my mouth......
sometimes its the weirdest things that help.
My mum made me soups with lots of lentils in it until it was all soft and full of good things ... they still had to force me to eat.... I just didnt want to...
HUGS and energy to you both....
Alice - Lynda01MemberThank you ever so much all of your amazing ladies! I am so grateful for your support! We got onto her team and they added another medication just to get her over the nausea and she has been feeling slightly better since late yesterday. She's very anxious about starting the antibiotic today difloxacin as she gets nauseous on these too! Ive just got her a probiotic to take - does anyone take this? She's going to check with her team before starting them but I thought it might help. The poor thing now also has a mouthful of ulcers along with constipation! She's getting the full gamet of side effects including trouble sleeping. I've booked her into the psychologist as she missed her first appointment due to her chemo appointment clashing but I think the emotional side of this journey is so difficult and it takes time to come to terms with everything that's happened. It's such a whirlwind...
Thank you @primek for your advice on the zantac - she's taking losec which is helping slightly. Cath, I agree we are very lucky it was found at all - I am eternally grateful to the doctor who was so tenacious with her fight for diagnosis. We had no idea like many other women that this would be the outcome.
Thanks Lipsy - the nausea is no fun as you know and unfortunately it was my mums biggest fear about chemo. Days seem to last forever when you feel like that. I"m glad to hear you at least get a few days break - we'll hope for that!
Thanks Tracey62 for your diet ideas - it's hard to know what to eat and what options there are. I've been trying to include lots of protein but its hard when you just don't feel like it isn't it. I'll try some of your ideas.
Thanks Soldiercrab - I'm realising how important it is to keep the team updated so changes can be made particularly for the next round. I really appreciate your advice. - primekMemberOh...the other thing is reflux issues which then make you feel nauseas too. Zantac is good or the oncologist or the GP may order nexium. I needed it twice daily on AC.