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Romla
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Breast Density Workshop Adelaide papers online
https://www.informd.org.au/workshop.html
Hi all
Here are some of the papers from the workshop - some are not available eg Jennifer Stone on WA as research project as yet unpublished.The one’s I found most interesteing were the introduction by Wendy Ingman , the Legal prospective by BernadetteRichards and a Radiologist view by Mary Rickard.
Hopefully more will be uploaded soon as will a report from me once my twins 18th birthday festivities end.
Hi all
Here are some of the papers from the workshop - some are not available eg Jennifer Stone on WA as research project as yet unpublished.The one’s I found most interesteing were the introduction by Wendy Ingman , the Legal prospective by BernadetteRichards and a Radiologist view by Mary Rickard.
Hopefully more will be uploaded soon as will a report from me once my twins 18th birthday festivities end.
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- RomlaMember@arpie. In WA Breast Screen advise a client has dense breasts and advise they discuss this with their doctor. I guess is you have a mammogram result that reports negative for breast cancer many do not take the next suggested step.
- RomlaMember@arpie which maybe one reason WA’s stance is not widely supported.Of thegrades a-d it is c- d which gives most concern for false negatives.Alsoit would seem many WA people are unaware that breast density may mask breast cancer .
- RomlaMember@arpie WA does not advise patients about breast density grade just that the patient has dense breasts.
- RomlaMemberI invite anyone else present to add to / correct any errata eg @gevans
I have advised the convenor Wendy Ingman of my observations also on this thread of the blog and also invite her to add to/ correct any errata. - RomlaMemberAnd then there is the issue of government funding thru the public sector additional testing for those not in private health.
- RomlaMemberI think legal risk has a lot to with it in the very litigious times we live in .
- RomlaMemberThey don’t seem to have the measurement process defined enough yet.
- RomlaMemberThey use software packages embedded in the equipment to combine volume and area of breast density tissue to measure the grade of breast density.
- RomlaMember@arpie the issue is their is different software available to measure breast density and despite a common grading a- d they generate different starting and ending points for each grade.ie what maybe a ‘d’ on one package maybe a ‘c’ on another .
- arpieMember......I had the impression later that the inability to accurately measure breast density across both public and private health systems may be a contributory factor to the ANZRC lack of support for revealing breast density to patients undergoing mammography. Basically fear of being sued .....
That is really weird, @Romla - as they already have a grading system!! ..... The diagrams shown on one of the papers pretty clearly showed the difference in the mammogram images of the 'fatty breast' tissue (Type A & B) vs Dense Breast tissue (Types C & D)
So surely, people having Mammograms who have EITHER of the Dense Breast tissue 'types C or D or 3 & 4' - it is virtually medical negligence to NOT inform them that the mammogram will not be accurate in picking up cancer lesions - as it basically applies to 50% of women being screened!! That is a HUGE number of women out there, possibly walking around with right now, with a growing cancer in them that COULD have been diagnosed & treated at an early stage, not waiting til they are Stage 3 & 4 or worse! :((From the BCNA presentation:)
The level of mammographic density can be scored or rated by radiologists along a scale from mostly fatty (very low density) to mostly dense. One of the most commonly used scales is the American College of Radiology’s Breast Imaging Reporting and Data System (BI-RADS), which radiologists use to classify MD on mammograms as A, B, C or D. Sometimes a numerical scale of 1, 2, 3 or 4 is used instead.
- Type A (almost entirely fatty, the lowest density): around 10 percent of women who undergo a mammogram will have mostly fatty, very low-density breasts.
- Type B (scattered areas of fibroglandular density): roughly 40 percent of women who undergo a mammogram will have this low level of density.
- Type C (heterogeneously dense): another 40 percent of women will have this type of mammographic density, which is considered dense and may obscure small masses.
- Type D (extremely dense): around 10 percent of women undergoing a mammogram will have extremely dense breasts, which lowers the sensitivity of mammography.