Forum Discussion

docjun01's avatar
docjun01
Member
15 years ago

“IMPACT OF BREAST CANCER DIAGNOSIS TO THE WHOLE FAMILY”

02/04/2011

Hi All,

Good evening! I and my wife are first time to join the BCNA. I hope you don’t mind if I’m going to share our family’s experience and “adventure” here “Down-Under” Australia since 2005.

This is to show a different aspect and perspective on the impact of breast cancer to the whole family, and to show that this is happening in real life, that others may not be aware.

Our Permanent Resident Visa application here in Australia was denied and refused because of the medical condition of my wife Mary. Below is the letter we sent to our family friends (after I received a call from our Australian Immigration Case Officer) for sharing purposes, and that we might find other families or individuals with similar experience/story like us, and that we may learn from them or them from us:

19/03/2011

Hi guys. How are you and your family? Just updating you of what’s going on now with my family. My family and I are very honoured to have you as our family friends. As you are aware, when we arrived here in Australia on 2005, we don’t have any family friends or relatives, except of course, with my employer.

Up to the present, me and my family are on Temporary Visa 422 (for medical doctors) since we arrived here in WA on Aug 2005. While working here in WA as a General Practitioner, I tried to look for another pathway to apply for Permanent Residency visa, (aside for being a medical doctor, since being a medical doctor need lots of requirements especially for an Overseas Trained Doctor like me).

Another Visa subclass 175 (Independent Skilled Migrant) for permanent residency I applied using my other skill as a Medical Administrator (which I'm qualified also) was lodged on 2008. It took us almost 2 years of long-waiting before we received a reply from DIAC-Immigration. During the waiting period, while we are here in WA, my beloved wife 41 year old got very sick in 2009.

She had 3 major surgical operations: breast mastectomy/removal due to sudden onset of breast cancer, chemotherapy and hormonal therapy, then had breast reconstruction, then by June 2010, brain surgery from tumour that spread from her breast cancer, then brain radiation therapy. After that her specialist made a mistake of “missing another tumour that’s growing in her lungs”. The proposed management was for another lung operation +/- chemotherapy +/- radiation therapy, which my wife now refused and she don’t want anymore active treatment. Added to our “medical misfortunes” here in WA was when I underwent an unnecessary knee operation due to a “missed or wrong diagnosis” from a different specialist. Take note, even these specialists made their mistakes, no apology was given to my family, especially to my wife. We managed to survive all these things from our own finances, private health insurance, friends, church, private organizations and community support. No help or support from Australian government because we are still on Temporary visa. All these things happened while we are here in Western Australia .

When we received an email from our Immigration Case Officer (Ala--)sometime in November 2010, I informed her of the changes in our circumstances, particularly the medical condition of my wife. Because of the changes in our circumstances, our points system dropped down a little but we're still qualified for other Visa types. She suggested us different visa options such as a Visa 176 State Sponsorship, or an Employer Nomination Scheme, or a Regional Sponsorship. Thanks to the “Letters of Support” from JUDI MOYLAN MP and FRANK ALBAN MLA, we were able to get the Western Australian State Sponsorship. We then proceeded with our Visa 176 application under WA State sponsorship using my Medical Administrator skill (from Visa 175 changed to Visa 176). A new case officer (And---) emailed me this February 2011 for us to have our health requirement medicals, police clearance etc. Again, they are aware of the medical condition of my wife. We paid the necessary fees and did what we are asked for. Then 2 days ago, I received an email requesting me to call the same case officer (And---). When I talked to him, he is advising us to file a new and different Visa application (again) because he (or the DIAC) will definitely “DENY or REFUSE” our WA State Sponsorship 176 Visa Application for Permanent Residency due to the medical condition of my wife. As I said, DIAC (thru case officers) was already aware of my wife’s medical condition but then the initial case officer (Ala--) suggested us a different Visa 176 and told to proceed with the medical examination health requirement (as per email of the new case officer And---) giving my family hope that DIAC will give us consideration. That’s why we did everything what was told us. But this turned-out to be a “false hope”. I mentioned to our case officer about:

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1071i.pdf

The Migration Regulations allow a waiver of the need to meet the health requirement in some circumstances. The waiver is available if an application is based on humanitarian considerations (such as refugees), or a very close family relationship (such as a spouse or child).

But apparently we are not qualified to avail this (because accordingly, we are not refugees/asylum seekers) and apparently there is no health waiver for this type of Visa 176 which was not mentioned to us before. He said that my wife will be causing "undue cost or undue prejudice to the access of Australians to medical and support services if a visa is granted".

I even told our case officer that my wife is already on palliative care (meaning no more active treatment because of her very poor prognosis, which means she’s dying!), and I'm willing to sign a letter, that we're not going to access Australian Medicare for my wife, and that I'm going to get private health  insurance exclusive for her. Still, the answer is NO!.

Even my job/working contribution as a doctor/GP since we arrived here on 2005 and the taxes I contributed to Australia for more than 5 years of service in rural and remote areas (Geraldton, Karratha, Dampier, Dalyellup-Bunbury, Ellenbrook) were not given consideration and not appreciated. One of my patient in the medical centre commented, how come these “rioting” asylum seekers who have not contributed yet to Australia but only embarrassments, additional expenses from taxpayers money and fear to neighbouring legitimate Australian people, have the right to demand for their visa, while in my case, I had my share and contribution to Australia, have not cause any embarrassment or trouble, have not use taxpayers money but because of the “long waiting time” (same complaint of the asylum seekers) of visa application processing, my beloved wife became sick here in Australia and suddenly developed cancer from apparently no reasons/cause, and now the Immigration is using this medical illness to deny and refuse our visa application. Maybe if the immigration did process our application immediately, then probably we will not have this kind of problem.

This new visa advised by our case officer will entail a change of application, repeat of paper works, paying again of different fees, starting all over (again), prolong agony of waiting (again)

And even if I changed to another Visa application (Employer Nomination Scheme as suggested by our case officer), apparently there is NO guarantee of approval! Apparently, they (DIAC) will approve only our Permanent Residency visa if my wife is already DEAD! (OR if we are DIVORCED!; OR if we are LEGALLY SEPARATED! This is another “very painful hard blow” to our already financially drained, emotionally, spiritually and physically stressed and "worn-out" family. My family is also worried because my medical board registration will be expiring this coming June 2011. What we are hoping and wishing for is for my family especially to my dying wife (loving mother of my 2 daughters aged 13 and 10 years old) is the granting of our Visa 176 permanent residency application, before the expiration of my medical board registration. Since currently we are on Temporary Visa, once my registration expires on June 2011, then we will need to leave Australia , after more than 5 years of providing medical services to the rural and remote places of Western Australia . My wish is for my wife to feel and see that her two daughters are here, and proudly Australians before she deteriorate and die. But since we were refused already of our visa application, we decided not to pursue and insist anymore our case to the immigration department of Australia.

Even these things are happening to my family, we’re still very thankful and we appreciate the opportunity given us to experience and live the Australian way of life. We are very grateful to have many Australian friends, like you, who are always there for us, more important than any material things or wealth in this world.

Thank you very much.

Yours respectfully,

junstel88 family

PS: Kindly please protect our identity because we are still on Temporary Visa :-) 

 

 

 

 

 

18 Replies

  • I am really really please to hear that BCNA was NOT a group that did nt support you.  I have been involved with BCNA for several years - since I also went throught the journey of BC.  BCNA is an advocate for BC patients and I am relieved that they offered some support to your family.  I have email address of just about every MP in Parliament and will send them your story tomorrow - again best wishes to you and I will try and get you some support.

  • hi ann...thank you so much..no problem with me..tha'ts the main idea..to share to other people that this is happening in real life..by the way, it's not the bcna that rejected me..its' the other breast cancer forum..

     i sent emails already to some of our honourable senators and mps..actually got few supports already from them and some groups, multicultural, religous groups and individuals thru signing the petition letter we're circulating nationwide..

    here's another one..i don't know what will be your reaction..just few hours ago, i received a call from one of the staff of a senator..we talked over the phone..she's very lovely and very helpful..accordingly, she talked to the immigration and the immigration is saying a different story against my story..good thing is, i kept the email thread communications between me and the case officers handling our visa appication..but now the immigration is telling that  they don't have the records!..what i'm pointing to them (diac) is: from the very beginning, the case officers already aware of my wife's breast cancer but still we were given a "wrong information" regarding a visa, and because i trusted and believed the case officer that they are the "experts on their fields", i followed and applied what their adviced to me..but in the end, the visa they advised to me was a "wrong visa" because there is no "health waiver" and therefore we cannot appeal for that...accordingly, the immigration said that they don't have records (how come??) but i kept my email thread communications, so i sent a copy to the staff of the hon senator, to show that i'm telling the truth..my family is down already, my beloved wife is injured and hurting from her advanced breast cancer, and this is what we got from the immigration!..when my wife was still healthy, she's studying and working at the same time as a child care assistant at pilbara, taking care of the babies and children..and this is what the "gift" of the immigration to my terminally ill wife, after our almost 6 years of service to rural & remote areas of WA..

  • Hi, like Maria I am disgusted at the treatment you have received from Immigration and wish I could help in some way.  The treatment you have received over what these illegal immigrants are getting supplied by the Aust Government really makes my hair stand up.  What I would olke to do it post your story to all the members of Parliament and see if I can get a response.  Many times ALL our MP members are not aware of just what is happening and I believe your story deserves much more and the publicity of what you have been through should be heard by all Australians.  I also live in a rural area and we are fortunate to have plenty of doctors but I also know many rural & regional areas are screaming out for doctors.  I find it hard to believe that BCNA have not taken up your cause - I will be contacting them to get their reason - this is NOT just political its about your wifes' health and her journey with BREAST CANCER.  GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL 

    PLEASE advise if I could have your permission to send your story on to members of the Government.

    Ann

  • hi fran,

    thank you so much..i showed your reply to my wife and she's very happy..we're appealing now to the immigration minister for "humanitarian consideration and compassion" for my wife..we were surprised when some family friends and imagine, my own patients started to launch "australian-wide petition signatures"..we've got support from MPs and Senators, Church groups and multicultural groups, and the community, from diff states of Australia..but the irony of it,  breast cancer advocate and support groups don't want to get involve!

    My family, especially my wife is not asking much from the Australian government. We just want a little recognition of my family’s contribution (thru me and my wife’s work as a child carer, and active participation in the church and community) to the rural & remote areas of WA, and humanitarian consideration and compassion to my terminally ill wife (41 y/o). It’s not my wife’s fault to have this advanced breast cancer! Nobody wants to have cancer! But this was the reason the DIAC is using to reject our permanent residency visa, after our almost 6 years here in WA.

    Another thing, I realized now that what we are requesting to the Honourable Immigration Minister will be beneficial not only to my family but also to other Migrant individuals and their families, in general. Just this morning, when I requested one of my patient for her signature, she was a bit teary because according to her,her brother went back to India after almost 2 years of working under temporary visa but failed the permanent visa application. My patient said that there were questions on her brother's medical condition. She did not elaborate anymore the situation. But that patient of mine was very happy, knowing that we are doing the petition for a "noble cause', and praying and hoping that whatever happens, this will become   "precedent" for the future, for the good and betterment of the multicultural migrant families, which the Honourable Immigration Minister Chris Bowen termed as "Australian Multiculturalism" 

  • WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN OVER COME THESE ISSUES TAKE CARE OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU .

  • WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN OVER COME THESE ISSUES TAKE CARE OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU .

  •  

    Thank you so much Maria/Polar. You made our day happy. I showed this to my wife and she's definitely "uplifted". I posted the same story in other breast cancer forum, hoping to share our family's experience, and to show a different aspect and perspective on the impact of breast cancer to the whole family, and to show that this is happening in real life, that others may not be aware. But I was “discriminated and kicked-out” because they said; my family’s story is a “political issue and not really breast cancer”.  :-)

     

  •  

    Thank you so much Maria/Polar. You made our day happy. I showed this to my wife and she's definitely "uplifted". I posted the same story in other breast cancer forum, hoping to share our family's experience, and to show a different aspect and perspective on the impact of breast cancer to the whole family, and to show that this is happening in real life, that others may not be aware. But I was “discriminated and kicked-out” because they said; my family’s story is a “political issue and not really breast cancer”.  :-)