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LibbyB
9 years agoMember
alcohol and breast cancer reoccurence
Hi everyone, just wondering everyone's thoughts on this topic. It was splashed all over the news yesterday in Melbourne. That having more than 60mls per day-the equivalent of 1/2 a bottle or less a week can increase our chances of reoccurrence!
I know we all want to do everything we can to reduce this risk but at the same time live our lives to the fullest!
After only finishing chemo in August and having my final surgery 4 weeks ago it is still fresh on my mind and I still feel nervous about drinking, although I have always loved a glass of wine!
what are your thoughts?
how much do you now drink since finishing treatment?
Libby
I know we all want to do everything we can to reduce this risk but at the same time live our lives to the fullest!
After only finishing chemo in August and having my final surgery 4 weeks ago it is still fresh on my mind and I still feel nervous about drinking, although I have always loved a glass of wine!
what are your thoughts?
how much do you now drink since finishing treatment?
Libby
30 Replies
- onemargieMemberHi there Deanne, take it as you want, your choice, it was not to be taken personally. And if anyone else is offended by my post then I am sorry. But if you are going to post comments like that you must expect some debate about it from others. If its conclusively proven that alcohol causes cancer then it should be written on every bottle of alcohol sold like it is with cigarettes. Like I said I totally respect your choice, with all of us in this situation its all about supporting one another no matter what. If its good enough for Jesus, then its good enough for me and fingers crossed I live to a ripe old age happy and cancer free and if I'm privileged enough to make it to the pearly gates one day then Ill be skidding through them on my knees and hitting him up for a drinkypoo when I bloody get there telling him WTF! you owe me a beer!!. I sincerely wish you all the best Deanne and hope you and everyone on this forum have a long happy fulfilled life no matter what lifestyle choices any of us choose to make. Cheers, Margie :)
- melclarityMemberI absolutely agree i think difference of opinion is a good thing! I do think that we do respect each others choices, however we perhaps have different views on the information. All my Specialists also said there is no more link between alcohol to Breast Cancer than any other disease. Its purely about eating a balanced diet which is just a normal recommendation. So i dont think its personal honestly. Ive been doing this 6yrs and in all that time not 1 in the medical profession ive come across talk of studies as they are all minority hence why theres something new comes up all the time to avoid. If I have to look at a study for my recurrence? It wasnt alcohol in fact it was tamoxifen which my oncologist agreed as it doesnt work in a third of cases.
We all choose and i absolutely respect everyones choices and opinions. Its about being happy the way we find that to be true for ourselves. Hugs Melinda xo - DeanneMemberThanks @Zoffiel. As you say, we all make our own decisions based on our own experiences and what is important to us. Having just returned from my second trek to Everest Base Camp (this time with a group attempting to climb Lhotse, the fourth highest mountain in the world), I totally get that some of us take risks that others might choose not to :). Those climbers are a different breed altogether! :o
I understand and respect that others have opposing opinions but did feel singled out in this instance. I was mentioned in a comment (@onemargie) and my reasoning was suggested to be based on unsubstantiated information. Some words and phrases were pretty difficult to not be offended by, despite assurances to the contrary.
You can share your opinion without unfairly attacking someone with a different view. - onemargieMemberHere is the link to Deanne's post if anyone is interested. I totally respect your choice not to drink Deanne absolutely. I read the cancer council article position statement that you mentioned and it does mention your comments, and as I said was not at all having a dig for your lifestyle choice at all and apologise if you were upset by this. I understand you were just trying to put the recommendation out there from what you've read to others, but there is so much information out there about this and like the other ladies have said non drinkers have been diagnosed with breast cancer too. And I still don't believe alcohol in moderation is harmful. and I asked my oncologist about this also and he also said its quite ok to drink in moderation as there is no conclusive link. Any way I respect all who are on here and whatever choices they make to get through this shitty time and I will eat healthy, exercise and get enough rest, and of course I always worry about recurrence, if I eat this will it come back or if I do that will it come back , if I don't do this or that will it come back etc . And I totally understand why you want to give up alcohol after reading it Deanne as the first sentence says alcohol causes cancer. There are so many articles out there that say similar things, eggs are bad one year then good the next, I read one that says bacon is carcinogenic! and bloody hell who wants to give up bacon! but I wont stop living over it that's for sure, Margie :)
https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Alcohol-and-Cancer-Position-Statement2.pdf - ZoffielMember@Deanne. I think your decision to not drink alcohol is a sound one made because of the information you have read or your own inclination. No one here is going to try to change your mind, many share your commitment.
I won't be giving up my regular glasses of wine. I like it. Just like I like horse riding, motor bikes, gliders, power tools and all manner of things that could have bumped me off years ago. Some folk are risk adverse, some are not. It seems we are born that way.
Opposing opinions are part of life. I'm sorry you feel under attack. I don't like to be argued with either, but sometimes it happens. - DeanneMemberI simply listed and explained my thoughts on alcohol. Alcohol is listed and identified as a Group 1 Carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) which is part of the World Health Organization. It is listed as a Carcinogen on the Cancer Australia website and the American Cancer Society website to name just a couple of reputable sites.
As for it being a risk factor for getting breast cancer in the first place, this is also well documented so I never felt that I needed to justify what I wrote.
Yes we know that many people lead very healthy lives (including not ever drinking alcohol) and yet still get this terrible disease. But research has indicated that drinking alcohol could be a contributing factor for some of us. I choose to eliminate this possibility for myself because not drinking alcohol is an easy thing to do. It does not negatively effect my quality of life and I believe it is a healthy choice to make.
It makes me very sad that by explaining my thoughts and choices I feel attacked by others on this site. Read my comment, do your own research if need be and then make up your own mind. The question mark over alcohol is enough for me. This is the one place I thought I might get some understanding over my choice. It appears not. - angg66MemberLadies I think some of these studies (like this one) are crap! I've never been a drinker, smoker & had a very healthy Mediterranean diet, YET I have metastatic breast cancer!!! Enjoy life.
- primekMemberWell my sister who passed from bc never drank her whole life. I still think it's the grey hair that causes it.
- ZoffielMemberI don't give a rat's. Kudos to the virtuous who still share my dilemma; at least they have some idea of what didnt cause it.
- Michelle_WMemberDon't think we will ever really know what causes most breast cancers. I have never drunk alcohol or smoked my whole life. I had trained for months and ran two half marathons in six weeks, all the while having breast cancer (unknown to me). I then needed all treatments and still have just over another five years of Tamoxifen to go. So just don't know?