Breast cancer in the media

Shame the media doesn’t do an article on doctors-ignoring-side-effects-of-cancer-treatments-so-they-can-claim-higher-success-rate

Am fed up with hearing about the things we should have done that would have stopped us from getting bc. I was a teetotaller until age 46. "Dr Karl" doesn't talk about a link. He says "Alcohol CAUSES breast cancer in women".

Well, @Flaneuse, all those nuns who contracted breast cancer, and thus gave the disease the name of "The Nuns' Disease", must all have been raging dipsomaniacs I reckon!!!

@AllyJay Absolutely. Some of those abbeys turned out some pretty good plonk.

No matter what did or didn't cause it that ship has long sailed.  It is no longer relevant to our situation so why worry about how it got there. 

 No one can say for definite what causes it and it's highly doubtful that it is one thing on it's own. Otherwise people who don't drink wouldn't get BC and we all know that's not true. Why can some people drink, take drugs and flog their bodies for a lot of their young lives never have any issues and the next person does everything right and still ends up with it???

Who knows whether or not the people in the studies had any other risk factors apart from alcohol alone.

 Media will take a headliine and run with it. It's also very easy to grab a part of a study and make a headline around it.

For example.

The headline for this study could read "Teenage drinking linked to breast cancer"

Alcohol consumption during adolescence and early adulthood may have a greater adverse effect on risk of proliferative benign breast disease as compared with alcohol drinking in late adult years.

Dietary exposure to ethanol during puberty – but not ethanol exposures after lactation – induces morphologic changes in mouse mammary glands that predispose to breast cancer development.

 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4299758/


Personally I like this one better.....think I'm going to run with this LOL ..

" Alcohol consumption stops breast cancer recurrence"


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6015986/


Among women with adjuvant hormone therapy, both moderate and heavy alcohol consumption were associated with better breast cancer-free survival (HR, 0.69, 95% CI, 0.51–0.93 and HR, 0.74, 95% CI, 0.57–0.96, respectively). Drinking any amount of alcohol as compared to none was associated with better breast cancer-free survival (HR, 0.71; 95% CI, 0.57–0.87). There was no significant interaction between alcohol consumption and adjuvant hormone therapy with either of the exposure modeling approaches (p-interaction > 0.05).

When the causes aren't clear, there will always be speculation, particularly in the media. Alcohol, processed meat, sugar, fat, etc are all on the 'be careful' medical spectrum for lots of reasons. We are fine with the ones we don't like, looking for escape clauses for the ones we do like. The old line about moderation still holds good. 

@AllyJay. I asked one of my friends, who is a nun, about the "nun's disease". She doesn't know of any nuns with breast cancer! 

Oh boy well the title was enough for me....bahahahaha! All my specialists over the past 8yrs have laughed over this and other things. Really not helpful in the slightest, thing is they don't know and that's why they come up with like a million ideas a year that cause it LOL. Pfft! Ask any woman who has had a recurrence and they will tell you, exercising, stopping alcohol consumption eating a completely different diet all didnt help at all. Any Specialist I've ever spoken to about it at length ALL give none of these things credence when it comes to BC. Hopefully one day they will find out exactly what it is, but we are a LONG way from there says my Oncologist. Really wish they'd stop badgering people over it. 

Don't forget the IMPORTANCE of keeping your weight down too, but hey! lets put some women on AI's that are steroidal and affect the LPL in the cells, which means you CANNOT lose weight it defaults every time. LOL Not sure why Im laughing, but its a cruel irony isnt it? but they dont tell you that about all meds. 

Moderation ladies, lets keep living and enjoying moving forward. I take no notice anymore to any so called studies as per all my Specialists recommendations. 

Stuff it! After all the side effects I need a glass of wine! x

Ohhh isn't that true sometimes @Jane221 OMG!!! LOL isn't it funny though that they don't listen to anyone who has had BC? makes you wonder half the time.