thanks Paula ,and primek, I tried to join the group but after I put in the reason why I would like to join and pressed OK, nothing happened... so perhaps the Join option is unavailable at the moment. In any case, your information has been such a help... in desperation yesterday I went to one of our large department stores and asked the lady who does the bra fittings to just have a look at my breasts and confirm they are wrinkled, puckered and very hard … She confirmed they are, so with her comments, and yours, I now know that Im not going crazy and have not imagined everything. The thing is I just cant face any more surgery, if I was to have them corrected, so I think I will just get on with things as they are.. Im sure I will get used to them as time goes by, and Im the only one who sees them (my 30 year old son no longer lives at home) .. and Im sure there are other ladies in far worse situations than mine, so I will count my blessings ! Thank you both for your comments, you have saved my sanity!