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jo1234
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15 years ago

Abnormal Pap test

A month or so after i was diagnosed with BC I had a Abnormal Pap test come back. I have had several biopsies done  as the gyneo   found three white lesions two on the cervix and one on the uterus.  He did say he thought they might be fine, but still worth checking thoroughly.  

I got my final biopsy results  on Friday and got the all clear that they were all non cancerous and just   some long word  which he explained was   when  two different types of cells join they cause a leision in the middle. This then can become cancerious.

He was so nice (and a good looker too) and has booked me in for  yearly biopsy and ultra sounds  for piece of mind while i am on Tamoxifen.   Good news   Cheers Jo xxx 

PS: Tamoxifen is a worrying  drug/ Women are 5 times more likely to get aggressive uterine and liver cancers when taking tamoxifen. This is high odds isn't  it?

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  • HI celeste, some Doctors seem to do the right thing and inform the patient of the serious side effects where others just dish out the drugs without a care in the world.  I am happy that you dont have to take Tamoxifen anymore, and i agree it's sad but  obvious that it  did not work in your treatment plan. I wonder why? I wonder how good it really is?  Hopefully you end up with a drug that has minimal side effects and keeps everything at bay as  you probably have been through enough side effects to write a book about.

    Hope your feeling a little better with your treatment Celeste, and hope everything thing else is coming together for you. It wont be long and you will be finished with it  all and you can move into a happier time in your life. Cheers Joxx

  • Thanks Dale and  i too am not willing to risk going without my meds to combat this cancer. Really i know we all should be thankful that there are drugs to help with this and we are not just left to battle it out our selves. I am just really over the totally cancer event . I dont want to have hot flushes or gain more weight or feels so lethargic with my memory that of a 80 yr old, but hey the thing i dont want the most is for  this horrible cancer to come back because that would just be devastating. Good luck with being the lucky one with your side effects. Well done. Cheers Jo xx

  • So glad to hear your biopsy turned out negative Jo, you and I are in a similar boat regarding the time and type of BC we both HAD!  I note you have started your Tamoxifen and I have started (the dreaded) Arimidex about two weeks ago.  I remember your help and kind words when I was having a bit of a panic attach about starting the Arimidex.  As we all know Tamoxifen and Arimidex both have their own nasty side effects and dangers, but hey, are we game to go without them, not this little black duck!  I must admit that I have been fortunate as the only side effects I have had are a tiny bit of nausea and feeling quite tired the last couple of days.  I was actually thinking it may have been an after effect of radio, as I sailed through it quite easily (except for the nasty burns), but I guess it is more likely to be the tablets.  I may be one of the lucky ones' who doesn't experience the horrendous side effects, but I will wait and see as it is early days.  We really have to do everything possible to keep this horrendous illness at bay.

    Hugs to you all,  Dale.

  • So glad to hear your biopsy turned out negative Jo, you and I are in a similar boat regarding the time and type of BC we both HAD!  I note you have started your Tamoxifen and I have started (the dreaded) Arimidex about two weeks ago.  I remember your help and kind words when I was having a bit of a panic attach about starting the Arimidex.  As we all know Tamoxifen and Arimidex both have their own nasty side effects and dangers, but hey, are we game to go without them, not this little black duck!  I must admit that I have been fortunate as the only side effects I have had are a tiny bit of nausea and feeling quite tired the last couple of days.  I was actually thinking it may have been an after effect of radio, as I sailed through it quite easily (except for the nasty burns), but I guess it is more likely to be the tablets.  I may be one of the lucky ones' who doesn't experience the horrendous side effects, but I will wait and see as it is early days.  We really have to do everything possible to keep this horrendous illness at bay.

    Hugs to you all,  Dale.

  • So glad to hear your biopsy turned out negative Jo, you and I are in a similar boat regarding the time and type of BC we both HAD!  I note you have started your Tamoxifen and I have started (the dreaded) Arimidex about two weeks ago.  I remember your help and kind words when I was having a bit of a panic attach about starting the Arimidex.  As we all know Tamoxifen and Arimidex both have their own nasty side effects and dangers, but hey, are we game to go without them, not this little black duck!  I must admit that I have been fortunate as the only side effects I have had are a tiny bit of nausea and feeling quite tired the last couple of days.  I was actually thinking it may have been an after effect of radio, as I sailed through it quite easily (except for the nasty burns), but I guess it is more likely to be the tablets.  I may be one of the lucky ones' who doesn't experience the horrendous side effects, but I will wait and see as it is early days.  We really have to do everything possible to keep this horrendous illness at bay.

    Hugs to you all,  Dale.

  • Well you really are a bad girl going more than 12yrs without a pap test.I've been going 2yrly but missed out this year because of moving house etc(I know,no excuse)But like you ,I am sick of having my body probed by aliens! I read the article on Tamoxifen that you sent me.Wow,what a worry.I did know alot of the side effects but was prepared to take the risks as this is my second bout of b cancer.But I've decided not to take it beyond 2 years. After that I'll take flaxseed tabs.I took them after my first bc for about 5yrs and then stopped.I like to think it was helping cos cancer didn't come back for 7yrs. I've put on about 4kilos since starting Tamoxifen.I'm tired alot too and when I tried to come off my endep tabs the hot flushes were worse and I felt depressed.I tried to go to 20mgs of endep but it made me way too groggy.So I'm staying with the 10mgs and I only get a few flushes aday and 1 or 2 overnight if it's hot.So I can live with that.I'm not going to rock the boat!

                                                           Tonya xx

  • Hi Robsue, I had read about it and the chemist told me  It is one of the serious side effects of Tamoxifen unfortunately,  but I wasn't told by anyone else until i went to gynecologist. My GP did not even say anything, but then again he told me he knows nothing about breast cancer etc. (dumb ass oops!! sorry)  .  The aches and the  hot flushes are just the pits hey! I have put on 6 kg since starting tamoxifen in August. Not sure if it is that or menopause or the fact that i am so lethargic i just sleep all day.   Have a read of some of the sites about tamoxifen and it's side effects.

    Cheers Jo xx

  • Hi Tonya, i am really naughty too like you as that was my first pap in, i dont know ,about 12-15 years or so. I hated having to have them,  so i didn't.   Even after my neighbor died of cervical cancer i still didn't have one.  I only had one due to being diagnosed with BC. My daughter dragged me along.  I was scared when first told  of lesions, but  once the gyneo looked and said he didn't think they were  growing  like cancer i was ok with waiting for a biopsy and results.  There is not one part of my body that is sacred now , i am so over cancer!

    It was this gyneo that i am seeing  that said using  tamoxifen will make you 5 times more likely. I don't know if he is right or not as the Internet sites all say different.  Tonya have a read of this site that explains about Tamoxifen      http://www.all-natural.com/tamox.html

    I am just over the side effects. I am still so lethargic (not sure if tamoxifen is to blame)  and sick of the hot flushes despite the small benefit of using gabapentin.

    Just heard on TV "Today" morning show that there has been a breakthrough with using two drugs to shrink the breast tumor  and sometime totally eliminate the breast cancer from the body. This might eventually be used instead of chemo.  I Can imagine the side effects!!!!!

    Cheers Jo xx 

    Ps: Tonya you do need to book in for a pap this week.

  • Good news about your pap smear-what a relief.I'm naughty,keep putting it off. But I'm certainly not getting it done this side of Christmas.What I have read is that 2 in 100 could get uterine cancer on Tamoxifen as opposed to 1 in 200 for normal population.I might have those figures wrong so will have to recheck.I don't know if that equates to your 5 times odds.None of my doctors speak of it or suggest liver function blood tests etc.Think I might ask for a blood check as it's been about 15mths since I started Tamoxifen.Yes it worries me too Jo.I doubt that I'll stay on it for 5years.Not so long ago you only took it for 2years. We are damned if we do and damned if we do and damned if we don't.                                                  

                                                 Tonya xx