When I went for my mammogram in late 2017 I was asked if I'd like tp participate in the trial of 3D mammogram machines. I was happy to do so and was randomly assigned a 2D machine (which I recognised as I'd had a mammogram before).
The 2D machine did pick up my tumour. However when I returned for the call back scan I was taken straight to the 3D machine.
That pretty much answered the question right there.
It's going to come down to money as always. And I wouldn't be surprised if there was some politics going on about which we are unaware.","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-discussion"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:169827"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"kmakm"},"postTime":"2019-10-20T23:45:18.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":4}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXwy","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":169835,"body":"
Straight from the top ladies...............and promptly!
Dear Jodi
I believe that
1) Yes tomosynthesis/ 3D mammography does detect more low grade cancers that conventional 2D Digital Mammography
2) However there is still no evidence that there is any reduction in breast cancer mortality,
I have read the article
We are a long way away from having evidence that Tomosynthesis , is a cost effective screening modality
Liz
So, if you look at BreastScreen Australia's aims - reduction of mortality rates from BC is pretty much it.
Tomo is yet to prove that it is more effective in reducing this rate. It does (as Liz states) pick up more cancers that are smaller and lower grade.
TOMO will happen.....it will take time.
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Using 3D & ultrasound to confirm earlier lesions - which would automatically show increased longevity/saving lives by the dropping numbers of mortality/death!
Is it that hard to understand?
Having been missed once (probably twice given how quickly after the MG my turmours were found by my GP) .... I am definitely on the 3D band wagon .... and would recommend that everyone demand to know the status of their Mammogram machine before booking in!","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-discussion"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:169827"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"arpie"},"postTime":"2019-10-21T03:37:53.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":3}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXw0","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":169832,"body":"@arpie
I am very certain that I will not be staying with BreastScreen WA as I have discovered that in WA, albeit in Perth, there are imaging services offering 3D mammograms with bulk billing for seniors with a doctor's referral. Well that is easy to get and it is necessary for me to travel to Perth for current followup care.
I now know that my last mammogram in August this year (year 2) was a 2D!
I am now seriously considering of leaving the public hospital system and finding a private breast specialist who bulk bills and who will support my decision in requesting 3D mammograms. Can't be too hard.
I will be proactive in my breast care and decide what is best for me.","board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-discussion"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:169827"},"author":{"__typename":"User","login":"Annie_C"},"postTime":"2019-10-20T23:02:25.000-07:00","kudosSumWeight":2}},{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3w1fDE0OjAsMzk6MXw1","node":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":169836,"body":"Interesting @JJ70
Hmmm, So if the cancers are being detected sooner & smaller & treated earlier with less invasive treatments - that is a good thing, surely and eventually less costly?
Even if the 3Ds were aimed more at those with Dense Breast Tissue or 'ambiguous results' like @kmakm's .....
I wait with baited 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While the study discussion reverts to the usual issues about false positives, overscreening, etc. that litter any discussion about technology beyond 2D mammograms in the Australian screening program (BreastScreen), it is indisputable that 3D mammograms (tomosynthesis) have a significantly higher cancer detection rate than 2D mammograms.
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This BCNA forum is replete with stories of women across the BreastScreen age spectrum (including many aged 50+) who were unaware they have dense breast tissue, and which BreastScreen (except in WA) purposely does not advise about despite it being evident to the reading radiologists. Dense breast tissue obscured their cancer and caused a delayed diagnosis and sometimes more intensive treatment.
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While the study discussion reverts to the usual issues about false positives, overscreening, etc. that litter any discussion about technology beyond 2D mammograms in the Australian screening program (BreastScreen), it is indisputable that 3D mammograms (tomosynthesis) have a significantly higher cancer detection rate than 2D mammograms.
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This BCNA forum is replete with stories of women across the BreastScreen age spectrum (including many aged 50+) who were unaware they have dense breast tissue, and which BreastScreen (except in WA) purposely does not advise about despite it being evident to the reading radiologists. Dense breast tissue obscured their cancer and caused a delayed diagnosis and sometimes more intensive treatment.
@arpie You are a vocal and articulate advocate about this issue and I wanted to bring this article to your attention ASAP.
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They only sent them to my Rad Onc - and I don't see her for another 2 weeks now (was supposed to be Monday!) grrr
I think I like that you had an over zealous radiologist - and I don't think I'd be too happy with having low risk DCIS just 'monitored' if it were me! ...... I wonder if THEY would be happy with that being said if it was THEM! I think not! Our first reaction is always to 'get it out'!
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I think I like that you had an over zealous radiologist - and I don't think I'd be too happy with having low risk DCIS just 'monitored' if it were me! ...... I wonder if THEY would be happy with that being said if it was THEM! I think not! Our first reaction is always to 'get it out'!
Yes, my 3D was also 'pretty firm' on the boob as well!! I winced & did the 'ouch' at least once! I have had painful ones in the past too.
Hope to hear tomorrow about the results! 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The extra scans were just an overzealous radiologist looking into it more than what was needed...my surgeon's words, not mine. Though my surgeon also made an interesting comment about in a few years time they won't operate for low risk dcis, it will just be monitored, bit like thinking whether an early stage patient really needs radiation. As for the 3D scanning machines not needing to press so firmly, i don't know about that! My technician had it down really firm due to my dense breasts, she kept asking me, are you ok and I'm like, yeah not a problem! 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They had to call me back in for an ultrasound and I was already planning how to tell everyone the worst news. 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They had to call me back in for an ultrasound and I was already planning how to tell everyone the worst news. 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I remember he was not happy 12 months/ more ago when I had a 2D one at another hospital as I couldn’t access a 3D one and needed an urgent look as had an inverted nipple ( all clear btw).
I was told by the technician at my recent mammogram that 3D machines need less pressure ( a blessing) and I know they are preferable for dense breast ( which I don’t have). I think he prefers the accuracy of the 3D machine and possibly the team that perform the mammograms as well as the the pathologist that provides a diagnosis.
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I remember he was not happy 12 months/ more ago when I had a 2D one at another hospital as I couldn’t access a 3D one and needed an urgent look as had an inverted nipple ( all clear btw).
I was told by the technician at my recent mammogram that 3D machines need less pressure ( a blessing) and I know they are preferable for dense breast ( which I don’t have). I think he prefers the accuracy of the 3D machine and possibly the team that perform the mammograms as well as the the pathologist that provides a diagnosis.
Btw I am also ILC which could also explain why he prefers a 3D machine.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:169847_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:169846":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:169846","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:169846":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:20667"},"id":"message:169846","revisionNum":1,"uid":169846,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:general-discussion"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:169827"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:169827"},"subject":"Re: BreastScreen VIC trial results - 3D mammos have significantly higher cancer detection rate than 2D","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:169846"},"body":"All the best for your results, @Artferret - we are both hopeful of an all clear! I hope to find out tomorrow too. xx
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Though i have to say mine was picked up with 2D through breastscreen vic though I've been told i won't be going back to them even after the all clear time. I'll keep having them at PM. Like you @arpie Currently waiting for 2 year results, tomorrow is r day. Feeling a bit jumpy as was called back in for second lot of scans.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-10-21T22:17:43.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-10-21T22:17:43.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"community:nkyiu94732board:general-discussion/message:169827/message:169845","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"413","rawBody":"Peter Mac in Melbourne has 3D which is where i go as my surgeon also works out of there. Though i have to say mine was picked up with 2D through breastscreen vic though I've been told i won't be going back to them even after the all clear time. I'll keep having them at PM. Like you @arpie Currently waiting for 2 year results, tomorrow is r day. 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