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  • Blossom1961Blossom1961 VicMember Posts: 920
    Shame the media doesn’t do an article on doctors-ignoring-side-effects-of-cancer-treatments-so-they-can-claim-higher-success-rate
  • FlaneuseFlaneuse BrisbaneMember Posts: 775
    Am fed up with hearing about the things we should have done that would have stopped us from getting bc. I was a teetotaller until age 46. "Dr Karl" doesn't talk about a link. He says "Alcohol CAUSES breast cancer in women".
  • AllyJayAllyJay Member Posts: 558
    Well, @Flaneuse, all those nuns who contracted breast cancer, and thus gave the disease the name of "The Nuns' Disease", must all have been raging dipsomaniacs I reckon!!!
  • FlaneuseFlaneuse BrisbaneMember Posts: 775
    @AllyJay Absolutely. Some of those abbeys turned out some pretty good plonk.
  • AfraserAfraser MelbourneMember Posts: 2,227
    When the causes aren't clear, there will always be speculation, particularly in the media. Alcohol, processed meat, sugar, fat, etc are all on the 'be careful' medical spectrum for lots of reasons. We are fine with the ones we don't like, looking for escape clauses for the ones we do like. The old line about moderation still holds good. 
  • Patti JPatti J Member Posts: 405
    @AllyJay. I asked one of my friends, who is a nun, about the "nun's disease". She doesn't know of any nuns with breast cancer! 
  • melclaritymelclarity Member Posts: 3,288
    Oh boy well the title was enough for me....bahahahaha! All my specialists over the past 8yrs have laughed over this and other things. Really not helpful in the slightest, thing is they don't know and that's why they come up with like a million ideas a year that cause it LOL. Pfft! Ask any woman who has had a recurrence and they will tell you, exercising, stopping alcohol consumption eating a completely different diet all didnt help at all. Any Specialist I've ever spoken to about it at length ALL give none of these things credence when it comes to BC. Hopefully one day they will find out exactly what it is, but we are a LONG way from there says my Oncologist. Really wish they'd stop badgering people over it. 

    Don't forget the IMPORTANCE of keeping your weight down too, but hey! lets put some women on AI's that are steroidal and affect the LPL in the cells, which means you CANNOT lose weight it defaults every time. LOL Not sure why Im laughing, but its a cruel irony isnt it? but they dont tell you that about all meds. 

    Moderation ladies, lets keep living and enjoying moving forward. I take no notice anymore to any so called studies as per all my Specialists recommendations. 
  • melclaritymelclarity Member Posts: 3,288
    Ohhh isn't that true sometimes @Jane221 OMG!!! LOL isn't it funny though that they don't listen to anyone who has had BC? makes you wonder half the time. 
  • Kiwi AngelKiwi Angel Sydney, NSWMember Posts: 1,874
    @kezmusc I’ll keep drinking then  ;)
  • SarnicadSarnicad MelbourneMember Posts: 295
    I like my oncs answer to the what causes it question - there’s a Nobel prize in the working out of that answer

    when discussing alcohol with both med and rad oncs both snorted with laughter at my social drink to about one occasion a month and then only a couple of glasses - clearly I’m not a serious drinker and have only had one drink since diagnosis and didn’t like the taste might try again when the twins turn 18 soon

    far more likely the excess weight I carry but then again it could just be sheer dumb luck
  • FlaneuseFlaneuse BrisbaneMember Posts: 775
    @Sarnicad I like your oncologists. I didn't drink at all during treatment as it tasted foul. Now it tastes good again, but I've reduced the amount I drink because it keeps me awake. My med oncol said the one single best thing you can do to avoid recurrence is to not put on weight; but then of course chemo and rads and depression means I have. Now that I'm off Letrozole I'm trying to lose some.
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