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Hospital Alert Systems for Lymphodema Arms

SoniaWhite48's avatar
14 years ago
I was wondering if anybody else has had experience with hospitals and alerting them that they cannot access your mastectomy / lymphodema arm for blood pressure cuffs or bloods? If so, what policy/measures did that hospital use and or how did you make sure your arm was not compromised? When I had my mastectomy and axiliary lymph node clearance a year ago, the local private hospital used a pink armband to denote the lymphodema arm that was not to be used for blood pressure cuffs or needles to take blood. During my recent hospitalization in a large public hospital for the secondary brain tumor resection, I informed the nurse that my right arm was not to be used for bloods or BP's. (Something that those of you who have had axiliary clearance of lymph nodes will have had drummed into you by your physio and medical team). I was told that they do not use the arm band alert system for either allergy alerts or lymphodema arm, in case the band comes off. Instead they write alert in patient notes and rely on that. I did suggest she write on my affected arm, which she did but high up near the shoulder where it was covered by my gown. My sister brought in her own permanent marker and also wrote "no BP's or bloods" on my affected forearm where it was more prominently visible. It was surprising the number of times, nursing and medical staff still tried to use the arm and questioned why not. Especially when the "good" arm was inundated with cannulas, arterial lines and the like. The blood nurse had fun trying to find a new vein every day on an already heavily utilized and bruised "good" arm. I even resorted to hiding my lymphodema arm under the blankets and leaving the "good" arm on top while I slept so that nurses would use that for their regular obs. It did not help that my "bad" arm was closest to the door. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Do hospitals need to unify a policy with regard to this issue?
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  • I was told that my hospital had changed procedure, and they now refer to the notes and patient instead of relying on arm bands (they did still use red to denot allergies, but instead of 2 a white with your name etc on it and a red for allergy they put your name etc on the red one.

    When I had my surgery (mastectomy) they put a pink on on that side and same when I had my port (I guess becasue they can't ask you).

    I got 2 free reusable ones form the, and they USA (free to get and free postage) and they should work. They look like the normal hospital ones but they have a reusable press stud.

    If you are interested you can get them from http://www.lymphedema.com/alertform.htm I got 2 becasue I thought I was having bilat done first, but it was decided to do cancer side first then prophylactic later, after I finish chemo. Make sure you choose arm though becasue they do leg ones too (thay are green), and if you want 2 (becasue you have had bilateral or to have a spare etc) click yes for bilateral. Mine came trhough quite quickly, only took about a week.

    At least this way you can have your own pece of mind that there is a visual deterent there if you ned it, like when in surgery, groggy, med'ed up or asleep etc. It is no big issue to the staff if they use the wrong arm on you, but you on the other hand can suffer extensively and for the rest of your life and this seems to me a small thing to do, for another level of protection.

  • Very good questions.  I am seeing my surgeon on the 18th for a follow up  and  I will ask him re the proper procedures.  My oncologist is ok with BP being done on my Lymph arm - provided it is done manually not with a machine, and provided I am healed from surgery.  Blood however is to be drawn from the other side.  The hospital I attend uses arm bands and ankle bands upon admittance.  Every time I have been in, they check both my arm and ankle to make sure they match and then they check the chart for notes.  They are colour coded and red signifies lymphodema.

    After my breast surgery I did have to stop the young nurses from accessing my surgery side - it was closest to the door.   I am hoping they have learnt now.

    I am going to have a quick read of the lymphodema literature from the Cancer Council, it may also be worth a phone call for clarity.

    Take care.

     

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